LATE MODELS NIGHT 1
$2,000.00
$1,000.00
$500.00
$400.00
$350.00
$350.00
$325.00
$325.00
$300.00
$300.00
$300.00
$300.00
$300.00
$300.00
$300.00
$300.00
$300.00
$300.00
$300.00
$300.00



$8,850.00

$50 NON QUALIFIERS
$50 ENTRY FEE
$40 PIT PASS PER DAY


   LATE MODEL NIGHT 2
$3,000.00
$1,500.00
$750.00
$600.00
$400.00
$350.00
$350.00
$325.00
$325.00
$300.00
$300.00
$300.00
$300.00
$300.00
$300.00
$300.00
$300.00
$300.00
$300.00
$300.00



$10,900.00

$100 NON QUALIFIERS
$100 ENTRY FEE
$40 PIT PASS

JStewart4 wrote on 04/24/13 at 1:13pm:

or the Hobby's for that matter!!

the entry each night is only 90 the first night, 50 entry and 40 pit pass, at least that is how I read it .

Lake Time.

People that don't support the DLM's will soon wonder why all the tracks will go to 650 to win and 50 bucks to start like some of the northern Ca tracks.  Tracks can't pay good purses with 13 cars and you can't race a 50 to 60K car logically for 50 bucks to start...And I thought the Super Streets were in trouble...

Duane,
At what point does the DLM owner's have the right to question the cost/purse ratio before " supporting the DLM's"? It cost the car owner the same amount to race doesn't matter if there is 13 cars are 30 cars so it seems the problem isn't the car owners. The cost to run a DLM goes up every year yet the purse goes down.. Example: tires are 150 dollars each and the backs are hurt after a night, thats $300. in tires + $180. fuel + $140. to enter = $620. You have to finish 3rd in the main to make $120. Not counting wear and tear. Remember If you got 20 fast cars you have a fast car finishing 20th. ....  I know your not going to make money racing but we can atleast try to limit the loss. With all that said, I'm planning on running both SS and LM both nights..

First off, Payout is good not great but good better than most I guess.
We have just the one motor together at this point and we are picking a few LM races to run this year mostly at Bakersfield which is by far the area where we have the most sponsor support. Have to support those who support us. That being said, all costs involved makes it a money loosing deal anyway-anywhere-anytime....but the fun factor is off the charts. SMS has been good to us in the past but last year we had terrible luck racing and otherwise at SMS,  so we are choosing to sit this one out at this time... things might change though.
And for the "northern tracks" I really believe they're pushing the limit to see what they can get away with and still get LM's to race, period I doubt it has much to do with the past car counts or quality of racing.
And it's always nice to see a big number to win but that's for one car I always thought that maybe the winner's share could be smaller and the difference spread out more through the field in any class of race car buts that tradition and it is hard to change. Now I have to go kill bugs.....Good luck to everybody who chooses to race the Nationals....Ron

I have to agree with Mr. Obertello on this one. A guy that travels any kind of distance has to get a hotel room,food ,gas for truck and race car,pit passes and entry fees. It will cost 1000.00 for the 2 nights of racing. This does'nt include tires or wear and tear,or any kind of damage. This is a decent payout if you are a local racer. I also think that more cars would come if there was more money spread through the field. I dont like the top heavy purses either,only 1 guy gets the reward. Good luck to all that go and support this race.

I got back into this just to have some fun and enjoy my midlife crisis. The 525 was what originally sold me to get a late model again, affordable motor, pump gas, expected longevity, etc. for the purse structure available. But....when I bought my car the guy made me a deal I could not refuse which included a fresh open motor (now broke). Regardless the cost vs. return is WAY out of balance. The playing field is NOT level with the 525 when there is traction! (We need to quit glorifying how it will even out when it slicks off) that's why you don't see more teams running them. Now I know everybody jumps on Nicks success with the 525 as a means to disparage any allowances for running the 525, but I must say...Nick is a better than average driver in fact he is a Fantastic driver and does his homework on racing, coupled with a Very knowledgeable crewchief. I just don't think it is fair to use Nicks success with the crate as a means of status quo rules. There needs to be more incentive to run it on all track conditions competitively (not just the slick). Better Options to run either motor on an equal playing field. keeping the big Wally motor with penalties or just on the shelf for.....hmmm Tucson?
I wholeheartedly agree with you guys the cost just to get to the track is a lot higher than it used to be, including parts, tires, pit passes, ice, sodas, water, hauler fuel,  NOW entry fees, etc. etc etc. it's crazy!
We race for FUN and we all have real jobs that pay the bills and we are willing to spend some money to enjoy this hobby that we all love but for some reason we cannot come together to control the cost on the (West coast)and its always been this way. Understand..."this is the west coast" our territory! our home! and there are some great drivers and car owners on the West coast, but it is what it is. very little purse. Regionally but Scweitzer (bako) pays the best local purse but lacks in car count? Go figure? We just don't have these big dollar Late model races with drivers who race for a living and a ton of fans supporting it.  We need to make it affordable for more racers to move up to late models and those who have them already to be able to travel in this Large area named the West coast. (There are a lot of late models Parked!)
Affordable rules = higher car count=better purse's, again=higher car count =again better purse with more fans seeing an awesome show within our Region our home (West coast). Why do we need to have cars like Moyer, Bloomquist, Owens, etc. and race for peanuts?
.......Ok I'm done venting
maybe i should just hack my front clip off my car weld a stock stub on it (SS) 3 link it and race for similar wages (comparatively) hmmmm... I might be a little more competitive too. Sorry just being a little selfish.

Chad

This is a West Coast Late Model Show.
Entry fee is $50 each night.
Non qualifier is $100 each night

Tuscon has a 10 grander every year, with a 5 and a few 3's thrown in. The problem is tracks are spread out much more out here. You know this. Also, out East, the guys would rather have a $65,000 race car than a house. Hence they probably live in trailers. I'm willing to bet also that local sponsors are dumping MANY times more dollars in cars than out here. It costs alot of money to live out here......if not, then why did you retire in the South instead of the LA area?





Also,not raggin'.