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THIS IS WHERE I START.........APOLOGY ACCEPTED
05/10/10 at 1:21am
 
To the Race Fans, Officials, Management, and Fellow Competitors of Santa Maria Speedway

On May 8th 2010 in the 3rd points event of the Hobby Stock race season. In the Hobby Main event I lost my temper.
(to say the least), willfully turned my car around on the speedway racing surface and intentionally looked for the 15 Car of Mr. Fraizer to do as much damage possible to both. And of both attempts I could not bring myself to follow through. I would unintentionally hit 31 Car of Charlie Scovell in pulling away from my final attempt at the 15 Car of Mr. Frazier. (which I have aplogized to Charlie for) And now apolgize to the fans that could hear my expletives afterwards.

Now....

At the time, not being able to think clearly, and enraged at the fact that I knew the officials were not going to do anything to
Mr. Fraizer for rough driving, (which has been about the only thing that has been consistent at the speedway this year, and as of now proving me right by allowing Mr. Fraizer to finish the race in 2nd place)
is the reason I took it upon myself to do the job of the officials in the only way, at the time, I could do. Which, as a patron of the speedway is something I should not have to do, under any circumstances. But what choice has been left ? None.

The threat of "black flagging" drivers off the track for rough driving has been a long running joke amongst all of the competitors at the speedway. (ask the IMCA Mod drivers they will confirm). There have been individuals who have been black flagged / banned from the speedway this year as most well know. But not enough, Not nearly enough black flags have been thrown for rough driving. It is now to the point to where I feel that it is delibrate, as if trying to cause incidences such as this. Which is BS. This costs unnesessary money to be spent on wadded up race cars, lowers the car counts, and looses fans. For most, money is real tight nowadays. Only individuals of low character enjoy watching thousands of dollars worth of cars get torn up night after night. Not me.

I dont mind getting leaned on a bit. On the track that is all part of dirt track racing its not like pavement you just dont have the same ammount of grip, its to be expected from time to time. But I have raced Mr. Frazier now for 5 years or so. And over the years we have had some good clean racing and of recent some not so clean racing. He does know full well what he is doing, He is a good driver when he wants to be. If he is so much faster than me why did he not just go around me. Why should I be pissed at him?, he has been driving like an idiot because he knows he can get away with it. I should be pissed at the officials who are not making the calls. Like I mentioned already his 2nd place finish for the night proves it. I know I am not the cleanest driver out there but I do try.

If a driver knows in his head solidly that he will be black flagged off the track if he gets into the back of another car, he will have to be a complete moron to even think about assblasting another competitor. Such as was done to me Saturday night by Mr. Fraizer. I was in second place at the time.

The video of the contact (if it was caught on camera), and the event will speak for itself. It is usually available Wednesday night at Me & Eds Pizza. and online at mizzleproductions.com and the speedway souviner booth

Should I have driven backwards on the track looking to get back at Mr. Fraizer?.....No

Should I be penalized or booted from the track for what I did?.....Yes
 
Should Mr. Fraizer  be given a final warning as to his rough driving other competitors and suspension if another rough driving event caused by him occurs?......Yes

Am I going to let this issue go?.... Not a Chance

To much time, money, and effort has gone into everyones racing programs to just allow rough driving by anyone to continue. PERIOD.

For those who want to take a stab at me and this post.... Better have all your facts straight and dont even think about putting words in my mouth, or spew lies about me.

I am man enough to admit my mistakes and to take corrective action to prevent them from happening again, be it with the car or myself

I will accept and abide by any decision the Santa Maria Speedway has in regards to me in this matter  

Are you Mr. Fraizer man enough to sit out a race if the video proves me right? (you and I both know I am right.... Remember?)


As of the time of this posting I have not recived any communication from the speedway management also apparently Mr.Fraizer's 2nd place finish still stands. I was told that same night just shortly before leaving from two unnamed employees of the speedway that there will be no further repremands against me other than me being black flagged off the track for the remainder of the already completed nights event. Of course, we will all see if that has changed after this posting and the others that are sure to follow.


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Reply #1 - 05/10/10 at 7:52am
 
quote Mopar73:
The threat of "black flagging" drivers off the track for rough driving has been a long running joke amongst all of the competitors at the speedway. (ask the IMCA Mod drivers they will confirm). There have been individuals who have been black flagged / banned from the speedway this year as most well know. But not enough, Not nearly enough black flags have been thrown for rough driving. It is now to the point to where I feel that it is delibrate, as if trying to cause incidences such as this. Which is BS. This costs unnesessary money to be spent on wadded up race cars, lowers the car counts, and looses fans. For most, money is real tight nowadays. Only individuals of low character enjoy watching thousands of dollars worth of cars get torn up night after night. Not me.





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Reply #2 - 05/10/10 at 7:56am
 
Posted at 1:21AM  --- Guess ya' couldn't sleep till ya' got this off your chest huh ???? ................LOL
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Reply #3 - 05/10/10 at 8:23am
 
Im trying to figure your logic here. Why should Frazier sit out a race? Because of guilt? LOL You where mad and did something stupid on the track. You got black flagged, end of story. Its racing, your  gonna get bumped out of the way. Your wrong fans want to see this sort of thing. It makes for exciting racing. Using your car to take someone out and driving backwards is complete stupidity, it sounds to me as the track is cutting you a  break. Good, cause everyone messes up. If you dont want to here things that differ from your point of view contact Frazier personally. Nobody has ever called me the day after a race and said "sorry I bumped you." LOL
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Reply #4 - 05/10/10 at 9:06am
 
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I love how you ammit to doing wrong. I know I have seen the 15 car in action and he can be a very good driver but he can also be a very rough driver. I really dont think anything will happen to you. Becasue if it does then something needs to happen to the sprint car drivers that pass on the berm for the win and the Officals say no thats legal. So if rough driving is bad!!! Passing on the berm is worst.



I have also been passed on the burm with no penalties given to the driver doing it, coincidently it was the 15 Car. 1st race of the 2010 season, he did it twice. One of which is on video...but only shows his car dropping off from the burm on the exit of turn 2.


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Reply #5 - 05/10/10 at 9:21am
 
SLM47 wrote on 05/10/10 at 8:23am:
Im trying to figure your logic here. Why should Frazier sit out a race? Because of guilt? LOL You where mad and did something stupid on the track. You got black flagged, end of story. Its racing, your  gonna get bumped out of the way. Your wrong fans want to see this sort of thing. It makes for exciting racing. Using your car to take someone out and driving backwards is complete stupidity, it sounds to me as the track is cutting you a  break. Good, cause everyone messes up. If you dont want to here things that differ from your point of view contact Frazier personally. Nobody has ever called me the day after a race and said "sorry I bumped you." LOL



I was going to post a comment to you and then I realized after reading your post a second time and noting your first sentence "trying to figure my logic" and the "LOL"'s throughout.........You are entitled to your opinion, which means absolutely nothing to me.


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Reply #6 - 05/10/10 at 9:49am
 
Glen...

It is wonderful that you are making a public apology for your actions on Saturday night.  

What is confusing, however, is that the following paragraphs are accusatory generalizations.  When you start with an apology, and then follow with accusations, then it is almost like the apology never happened.  I know you did not intend that to be the case; you are venting.

As for lack of black flagging, I would ask whether you have ever listened to the radio traffic between the officials?  For that matter, have YOU ever considered being an official yourself?  

I can personally tell you that being an official is a thankless job, and people will always accuse others before looking at themselves.  There is no one person who makes a black flag call; it is a compendium of parties, all on the radio, making the call, and the final call is made (or not made) by whomever is in charge.  

I was in the stands Saturday night, and have seen my share of BS on the racing surface.  I do not recall ever seeing someone deliberately run in the wrong direction with the intent of hunting down and hitting another vehicle.  

I am pleased that your rage abated before you in fact impacted with the 15.  No matter WHAT has happened, it is not acceptable to even consider retaliation of that caliber.  

I would invite ANYONE who believes that being an official is a simple prospect; it is not.  Perhaps you wouls like to volunteer for a couple of weeks and see for yourself...
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Reply #7 - 05/10/10 at 10:22am
 
I only get a 15 minuet break, so i will have to keep this short,

I am sorry that things went bad for you sat night,
I am not going to say you are right or wrong.
I saw cars checking up for a car that was stopped on the track and the yellow was coming out if not already out. i believe the 15 car had no time to stop behind you and you got turned.
Now i was going to give you your spot back since this happened under a caution,
But what you did in anger is the whole reason why we are even talking about this right now.
Dont forget i am a racer and have been behind the seat and know how you are feeling right now.
As a new race director i now no how hard it is to make the right decisions and in most cases this needs to be done in a matter that can be fare for everyone involved, we cant just rewind and fix, nor can we just stop the program and spend time trying to cool you guys down,
whoops my break is over and i have to get back to work.

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Reply #8 - 05/10/10 at 10:31am
 
As far as the officiating goes ...hmm what to say. I just think they get complacent watching sometimes. They need to at least shake the flag at people to give them a warning. Let them know they are being watched. We are hobbies and are seen as bangers to the outside world. Even though we have been a relative clean racing group, we still have the stigma.
I will be totally straight. I told Frazier he was using his door on people Saturday and its not the end of the world. He was surprised and generally and truthfully doesnt see it. I promise you that he will evaluate it and will probably be harder on himself than we will be. He is racing hard for that championship and pressing a little. Its an adjustment and thats all. He is still the fastest guy there.
Glenn, your fast too and pissed just like I get. Thats fine, your nowhere near getting banned as far as I can see. Dont trip potato chip. Glenn, I want to say this as softly as I can. Your car is all over the place when I try to pass you and I get touched up regularly by the nose of your car. I know when I pass you, it better be around instead of under or your momentum will hit my door everytime. It doesnt matter if its the heat race or the main. That boat swings into the corner and swings out of the corner like a stinking sledge hammer.
I used to hate passing scoval a couple of years ago because he would change three lines every 50 feet. Now he just passes me without a wave. Hell, Robert READ drove smooth last Saturday night. All I am saying is be honest with yourself. We can talk on Wednesday, oh and you and Frazier are coming. If I have to come get you I will.
By the way, Kirk or kurk or kurt or kaurt Morgan still sucks. As far as I am concerned he is scared to race with us anymore. PRIMADONNA!
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Reply #9 - 05/10/10 at 10:33am
 
[quote author=6B06776A5D4B43444D51280 link=1273479701/0 Nobody has ever called me the day after a race and said "sorry I bumped you." LOL [/quote]
I have made a call like that, saw vid of me getin into Linson alot harder than I thought. Couldnt stand it till next day to be able to call n say "sorry i didnt mean to play that way" prob owed more of those calls, but at least I did make that one. Undecided
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Reply #10 - 05/10/10 at 10:35am
 
And by the way, WHAT THE F&*K are we racing for with guys backwards in the middle of the track. YELLLOOW! That was the biggest bunch of BS I saw saturday night. I am just about to go on the high side of another car at full speed when I see a car in turn 3 and 4 backwards. No yellow or warning. If I had hit that guy then you would have seen some fireworks. Ill hook a chain to the track fence and rip that crap down...BAAALIEVE IT!
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Reply #11 - 05/10/10 at 10:38am
 
They really need to put an octagon in. Intermission entertainment? Place would be sold out. Barfoot vs Frazier for the first round....
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Reply #12 - 05/10/10 at 11:07am
 
SLM47 wrote on 05/10/10 at 8:23am:
Im trying to figure your logic here. Why should Frazier sit out a race? Because of guilt? LOL You where mad and did something stupid on the track. You got black flagged, end of story. Its racing, your  gonna get bumped out of the way. Your wrong fans want to see this sort of thing. It makes for exciting racing. Using your car to take someone out and driving backwards is complete stupidity, it sounds to me as the track is cutting you a  break. Good, cause everyone messes up. If you dont want to here things that differ from your point of view contact Frazier personally. Nobody has ever called me the day after a race and said "sorry I bumped you." LOL


Ok so 8 drivers want you black flagged and fans come down and say wtf and were all suppost to sit there and say its racing? i dont know who you are but you are the one with no logic
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Reply #13 - 05/10/10 at 11:08am
 
heyyou#27 wrote on 05/10/10 at 10:33am:
[quote author=6B06776A5D4B43444D51280 link=1273479701/0 Nobody has ever called me the day after a race and said "sorry I bumped you." LOL

I have made a call like that, saw vid of me getin into Linson alot harder than I thought. Couldnt stand it till next day to be able to call n say "sorry i didnt mean to play that way" prob owed more of those calls, but at least I did make that one. Undecided
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Yes you did Jim...way to man up!  By the way...I still forgive you! Wink
As far as the rest....WOW!!!!! I wonder what will happen next?
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Reply #14 - 05/10/10 at 11:23am
 
I know Cris Kerns aint been here long but he dont want to see the old me out there. if you want a show i can give you your moneys worth, I stopped last week to say, this cant go on and they put me back behind the guy after i passed him. If you want I can put the steel body back on my car and we can call it the hobby destruction durby
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Reply #15 - 05/10/10 at 11:32am
 
hobby31 wrote on 05/10/10 at 11:07am:
SLM47 wrote on 05/10/10 at 8:23am:
Im trying to figure your logic here. Why should Frazier sit out a race? Because of guilt? LOL You where mad and did something stupid on the track. You got black flagged, end of story. Its racing, your  gonna get bumped out of the way. Your wrong fans want to see this sort of thing. It makes for exciting racing. Using your car to take someone out and driving backwards is complete stupidity, it sounds to me as the track is cutting you a  break. Good, cause everyone messes up. If you dont want to here things that differ from your point of view contact Frazier personally. Nobody has ever called me the day after a race and said "sorry I bumped you." LOL


Ok so 8 drivers want you black flagged and fans come down and say wtf and were all suppost to sit there and say its racing? i dont know who you are but you are the one with no logic
My point is it doesnt matter if 19 of the 20 drivers want u black flagged. WHo matters is the officials. They cant catch everything and they are doing there best. I always laugh when people accuse them of having there favorites. Its small minded thinking. I also understand if you are constantly getting banged by a guy you have to take action. Your mistake was announcing it on here. LOL If it where me I would go to Frazier and say you race me like that again and Im gonna race you the same way. JMO what do I know though. The times I have watched Frazier he has raced pretty clean but I dont race in your class so you guys know what goes on more than I. Good luck to all.
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Reply #16 - 05/10/10 at 11:33am
 
mrsflagdude wrote on 05/10/10 at 9:49am:
Glen...

It is wonderful that you are making a public apology for your actions on Saturday night.  



What is confusing, however, is that the following paragraphs are accusatory generalizations.  When you start with an apology, and then follow with accusations, then it is almost like the apology never happened.  I know you did not intend that to be the case; you are venting.

I am bringing to light the fact that rough driving IS happening on the track and calls are not being made....and yeah I am venting as well...so what?  .

As for lack of black flagging, I would ask whether you have ever listened to the radio traffic between the officials?  For that matter, have YOU ever considered being an official yourself?  

I have a good idea, and understand that their is alot going on
for the officials throughout the course of the night.
And no I have no desire to be an official, just a desire to have officials make the calls they know darn good and well should be made.


I can personally tell you that being an official is a thankless job, and people will always accuse others before looking at themselves.  There is no one person who makes a black flag call; it is a compendium of parties, all on the radio, making the call, and the final call is made (or not made) by whomever is in charge.  

IF you read my post instead of critiquing it you would have noticed that it started out with me analizing my own actions, clarifing and then....you got that right...ACCUSING  

I was in the stands Saturday night, and have seen my share of BS on the racing surface.  I do not recall ever seeing someone deliberately run in the wrong direction with the intent of hunting down and hitting another vehicle.  


I am pleased that your rage abated before you in fact impacted with the 15.  No matter WHAT has happened, it is not acceptable to even consider retaliation of that caliber.  

agreed

I would invite ANYONE who believes that being an official is a simple prospect; it is not.  Perhaps you wouls like to volunteer for a couple of weeks and see for yourself...

Not for me.... and the correct spelling for "wouls" is "would"


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Reply #17 - 05/10/10 at 11:34am
 
[quote author=353E0D20332B3027203C6B6A520 link=1273479701/0#9 date=1273512662]As far as the officiating goes ...hmm what to say. I just think they get complacent watching sometimes. They need to at least shake the flag at people to give them a warning. Let them know they are being watched.

Thats so right cause i was whaching you!!! on the burm in three and four and was geeting ready to worn you! lol....
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Reply #18 - 05/10/10 at 11:36am
 
[quote author=465B5F41410605320 link=1273479701/16#18 date=1273516445]gl_rayburn98 wrote on 05/10/10 at 10:31am:
As far as the officiating goes ...hmm what to say. I just think they get complacent watching sometimes. They need to at least shake the flag at people to give them a warning. Let them know they are being watched.

Thats so right cause i was whaching you!!! on the burm in three and four and was geeting ready to worn you! lol....
LOL, good one Tim, this falls under be careful what you wish for.
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Reply #19 - 05/10/10 at 11:58am
 
timMod47 wrote on 05/10/10 at 10:22am:
I only get a 15 minuet break, so i will have to keep this short,

I am sorry that things went bad for you sat night, Thank you

I am not going to say you are right or wrong. I was wrong.

I saw cars checking up for a car that was stopped on the track and the yellow was coming out if not already out. i believe the 15 car had no time to stop behind you and you got turned.
Sorry Tim,  I was in front of Mike and I saw no spun cars nor did I see a caution light on. What I did see as I was being drilled in the right rear is the GREEN LIGHT STILL ON at the apex of 3 & 4. But I am sure the video will clarify this if the track lights and the deliberate take out have been caught on camera.

Now i was going to give you your spot back since this happened under a caution, again we will see

But what you did in anger is the whole reason why we are even talking about this right now.

True, and I wont try to cover it up, I f-ed up.

Dont forget i am a racer and have been behind the seat and know how you are feeling right now.
As a new race director i now no how hard it is to make the right decisions and in most cases this needs to be done in a matter that can be fare for everyone involved, we cant just rewind and fix, nor can we just stop the program and spend time trying to cool you guys down,
whoops my break is over and i have to get back to work.

Tim you are good guy and I still have alot of respect for you. But this event happend with the 2nd and 3rd place cars on Saturday night right infront of alot of fans I was told later that were hollering and screamin for me to nail his hide to the turn 3 wall. The fans saw a BS take out. I understand we cant rewind and fix. What I am setting out to do is wake everybody up to rough driving and the no calls. They have to stop.







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Reply #20 - 05/10/10 at 12:09pm
 
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As far as the officiating goes ...hmm what to say. I just think they get complacent watching sometimes. They need to at least shake the flag at people to give them a warning.


Agreed, I am not above reproach, If I am driving like a jackass out there, I fully expect to be warned and then booted, if I keep it up after being warned

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Reply #21 - 05/10/10 at 12:18pm
 
I was NOT there Sat nite so I have NO firsthand knowledge of these 'alleged' incidents.

What I sense here is a possible conspiracy between the driver of a certain Chrysler powered race car and an un-named restaurant who have combined forces to increase sales of a certain Italian style pie.  

Since the star witness, who icliams to have the video 'proof',  also goes by an Italian name, this could have very deep roots.
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