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Re: american stock class is out of hand
Reply #22 - 05/03/10 at 12:42am

perrin thanks for the good words...i have been working hard to get my car fast...you guys are for sure fast...its great to run door to door with you guys...its alot of fun

but to the remark about money it doesnt matter if they have more money in there american stock then a hobby they take pride in there cars just like the rest of us...if there shimmed up or locked when somebody draws the pill to pull the cover off the rearend we all will know if there locked or not...or somebody could put the money up to tear down the rearends of the caddys... JMO

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Re: american stock class is out of hand
Reply #23 - 05/03/10 at 1:16am

I've read this thread...and I'm not a racer, just a spectator...but!

If a car is set with ONE rear wheel on a roller to see if it has a locked, posi, or TIGHT rear end, aren't you looking for it's ability to SPIN the wheel on the ROLLER and the one on FIRM Ground?

A ONE Legger should only spin the tire on the roller with acceleration, if the Tire on the ROLLER Does NOT Spin, but the tire on the CONCRETE Does - there is virtually now way the read end could be locked...unless it had a broken axle....so one would have to assume the one on the concrete had less traction or Brake Pressure than the NON Spinning tire on the roller.

Or am I missing something?

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Reply #24 - 05/03/10 at 5:33am

Racin72 wrote on 05/02/10 at 2:43pm:

if it was locked up or shimmed up it would of jumped off the roller and not just spin the right rear tire

EXACTLY !!! I was Dq'd one night in American stocks because the Tech official at the time didnt know how to check for a locked-shimmed rearend,,,way to go to these Tech officials for knowing how to tech...

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Reply #25 - 05/03/10 at 5:46am

When you have drum brakes and when the brake pedal is pressed the rearend will spin the tire with the least amount of resistance and we all know with drum brakes its wich ever side is adjusted more than the other or wich ever has the least amount of air in the line or or or.... they should be checked with brakes not applied and all will be seen,,, JMO but have experiance with this situation,,,I have seen unlocked rearends with one tire in the air and the other on the ground spin the tire on the ground and the one in the air sit still because the brakes have been adjusted better than the one on the ground when brakes are applied. Dont believe me? try it, back off one side of rear brake adjustment and put it on the ground and the one with good adjustment in the air and apply the brakes and gas it up, you will smoke the tire on the ground as the other sits still.

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Reply #27 - 05/03/10 at 9:27am

The bullet, I would trade money for knowledge and experience any day! The work to build a car yourself isn't any less with money. Experience saves you work and time. You spend some time racing and you start to watch others for info. How they built thier cage,simple light and strong. What parts they use from tires to fuel tanks. You can then appreciate others who put effort in thier cars and get results, not just with money. I see very little correlation between money and winning at a dirt track. some of the most successful teams at bakersfield are blue collar every day guys, that have experience and work hard. So don't buy into the politics of envey, it's ugly and makes those that practice it look stupid!

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Reply #28 - 05/03/10 at 11:41am

On this rule for the AMERICAN whenever you get on that will the only time u put your foot on the brake is too put the car in gear AFTER that u are supposed to" take your foot off the BRAKE" and start picking the throttle up to a high RPM if its shimmed it will engaged and jump off the roller!!! BUT if its shimmed up and you are keeping your feet on the brakes it will just stay on the roller and Spin the tire with the less brake to it!!!!!

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childressJr.16 LMR God Offline IS WHAT IT IS Posts: 511 Bakersfield Ca	Re: american stock class is out of hand Reply #29 - 05/03/10 at 11:58am LETS JUST ADD THE HOOPS AND LOCK EM UP FOR "2011" & call this class HOBBY STOCK & CALL THE HOBBYs,, STREET STOCKS because that is what they basically are now uh days! THEN there will never be a problem with a REAR END AGAIN unless some one starts runnin a GOLD TRACK rear end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply #30 - 05/03/10 at 2:50pm

Yep Ricky thats what its coming to its getting way out of hand!! The milk man or what ever there called should of been DQed, but I bet he makes sure its fixed for the next race. So if the officials messed up on this one he got a break and im guessing a lot of racers have gotten brakes before!! BUT he should of been DQed in my opinion!!

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childressJr.16 LMR God Offline IS WHAT IT IS Posts: 511 Bakersfield Ca	Re: american stock class is out of hand Reply #31 - 05/03/10 at 2:55pm IT happens in RACING there isn't one person out there that has never gotten a break before some things are for you and somethings go against you..<< But its just when they do the wheel thing your only supposed to give the car gas ONLY no BRAKE at all, thats my only thing about this!!!
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Re: american stock class is out of hand
Reply #32 - 05/03/10 at 3:14pm

well if ur told to KEEP UR FOOT ON THE BRAKE BY the OFFICAL then u do what ur told but heres the thing the officalis NEW at that so how was he supose to know and im not sticking up for them i knew when im told to do something by an OFFICAL i will do it and the kid didnt know either but u guys can say what u want and complain about what u want

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XIV LMR Rookie Offline Posts: 61 Bakersfield	Re: american stock class is out of hand Reply #33 - 05/03/10 at 3:20pm Everyone is going to complane no matter what side of the fence they are on.... the only way to know if the guy was legal or not was to pull the cover that wasnt done! its over might as well move on and wait to complain about somtething else next week!
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Racin72 LMR Senior Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 334 Califorina	Re: american stock class is out of hand Reply #34 - 05/03/10 at 3:21pm lol thats no lie it the same people every week that do it
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Watchin15B LMR God Offline If you aint first your last!! Shake N Bake!! Posts: 1228	Re: american stock class is out of hand Reply #35 - 05/03/10 at 4:19pm Racin72 wrote on 05/03/10 at 3:21pm: lol thats no lie it the same people every week that do it Wow hello pot this kettle!!!! Get my drift!!
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Watchin15B LMR God Offline If you aint first your last!! Shake N Bake!! Posts: 1228	Re: american stock class is out of hand Reply #36 - 05/03/10 at 4:20pm If people were not illegal then others wouldn't complain!!
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Re: american stock class is out of hand
Reply #37 - 05/03/10 at 4:25pm

XIV wrote on 05/03/10 at 3:20pm:

Everyone is going to complane no matter what side of the fence they are on.... the only way to know if the guy was legal or not was to pull the cover that wasnt done! its over might as well move on and wait to complain about somtething else next week!

I agree why wasn't the cover pulled??

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Racin72 LMR Senior Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 334 Califorina	Re: american stock class is out of hand Reply #38 - 05/03/10 at 4:33pm LOL ur something else daniel nice try but if u think i complain every week ur WRONG pal and if he was illegal then he would of went through the fence
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Watchin15B LMR God Offline If you aint first your last!! Shake N Bake!! Posts: 1228	Re: american stock class is out of hand Reply #39 - 05/03/10 at 5:14pm LOL im glad you think im funny!! Really I just like messin with you!!
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18racr LMR God Offline We have a Fraud in the White House. Posts: 2848	Re: american stock class is out of hand Reply #40 - 05/03/10 at 7:55pm Watchin15B wrote on 05/03/10 at 4:20pm: If people were not illegal then others wouldn't complain!! I call bullshiat on this one,, lots of legal cars get called cheaters and theyre not,,,I know for a fact,,sorry but its the truth
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Re: american stock class is out of hand
Reply #41 - 05/03/10 at 8:04pm

18racr wrote on 05/03/10 at 7:55pm:

Watchin15B wrote on 05/03/10 at 4:20pm:

If people were not illegal then others wouldn't complain!!

I call bullshiat on this one,, lots of legal cars get called cheaters and theyre not,,,I know for a fact,,sorry but its the truth

I would agree but it sure seemed obvious the first test when one official said, get that car out of here, then they just kept saying its not illegal its not illegal!! Oh well I just think if they want to run those types of cars then get into a hobby stock!!

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Re: american stock class is out of hand
Reply #43 - 05/04/10 at 10:34pm

you shim the gears that the axels slide through!!!!!!!!!! An i think its funny that people say if it was shimmed it will fly through the FENCE that is BullSHUHvick cause i no someone that had theres shimmed as tight as you can get it and one a dam main event last year But hey there's firm believer's out there that no EVERYTHING and believe that it will jump off the roller!!!!! I WAS there whenever that car won and was on the WHEEL and never came off of it!! IF you PUT a HOBBY on there and USE the BRAKES the HOBBY WONT even JUMP OFF OF IT!!!!!!!!

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