man does this guy ever stop promoting his race track?
it's the off season CK take a break.. lol jk you are PROMOTOR of the year in 2009.

How many laps?  200?

mini and full size?

without a front or rear hoop  to protect the chassis, it might as well be a destruction derby car.
seriously, say no reinforcing of any suspension components, and no visible bars from outsise the car. thats all bolt-on stuff. the frame gets bent,,,your out an enduro car. you also have a ton of older factory stocks laying around Santa Maria im sure, that are not competetive any more. alot of those kind of cars were reserected for the victorville enduro.
just my thoughts.
im lazy, and dont like building cars. maybe thats just me.

rickshawII wrote on 11/30/09 at 8:44am:



Theres a ton of old factory stocks lying around????? Really maybe I could find my old car then. There may be a few maybe 10 tops. I do agree with winland about the W.C. enduro rules though. With all the talk about everyone bening on the same rules package that should be a no brainer. Also if you dont like rules dont race it, Im looking already for a car rules seem fare to me. And as far as beening out a enduro car Oh well I could wad up a 500.00 enduro car just as Quick as a 10k mod Its all in the luck BRO.

That is true. Hell the first few years of the factory stock class didnt have the hoops. Here we go again!!

rickshawII wrote on 11/30/09 at 8:44am:


I know being positive on here is not one of your strong points, but let me clear it up for you. Going by the rules, brought Santa Maria as many as 143 enduro cars at one event and they were not demolition derbys. You dont like my street stock rules because they are to open and you dont like my enduro rules because they are to stock. Wow, your pretty tough to please.

Where do you race?

darn it, i knew i shouldnt have gotten rid of my old town car     lol    

mudslinger47 wrote on 12/02/09 at 10:43pm:



I agree....  adding front and rear loops just increases the cost and labor involved.   these are ENDURO  races  not 200 lap factory stock race! . You got to take care of the radiator to survive....
Most important is to make sure the driver is protected.. with a cage  and plate steel on the door bars,  with a quality seat and belts.....
If you get 4-6 races out of a car your probably doing pretty good,  once in a while your gonna fold one up beyond repair.... That is the idea of the class....

Well, it is your track and your rules, you get to do what you want.  I still think the suggestion to adopt WCE rules is a valid suggestion.  It is just a way for a guy to protect his equipment if he/she does get into a big one.

I have been wanting to race there for about 10 years, used to try and get the old mgmt. team there to have enduros and they just kept telling me that it wasnt on their schedule.

Maybe in lieu of an enduro, I will just run one of the longer pure stock shows you have and become a back of the packer!

In the mean time, I will advise the 200 members of our WCE Yahoo groups (yes only about 8-10 would tow out there) that the rules are different than ours, which honestly will probably keep them home.

Again, if you get 140 cars, then you wont need our measly car counts.

In a way I applaud you going back to the true basics of an enduro car, but like every class of racing on earth, we have evolved!  We are yesterdays pure stocks.

Chris, I would like to have my car checked asap to see if everything is ok. I could bring it to you or take pictures, whatever you like.