i have a feeling if we get some hooked up tracks next year, people will be wanting that big cubic inch with a 4bbl....maybe not so much for when they throw in a dry slick, but ifs its hooked up and slinging clay i would think youd want a big motor with a 4bbl....its not like SMS goes dry slick every week like some other places around the country do  

OLD SCHOOL#6 wrote on 10/28/09 at 9:02pm:


Dont worry Oldschool, your name says it all. Just kidding. Anyways, no worrys, I disagree with people all the time, or they disagree with me is more like it. Anyways, if it doesnt work, I guess everyone can blame me. I believe it will work though and our car count will go up.

So a guy gets  down the straight away with a big CI motor and the 4 barrel kicks in and breaks the tires loose, has to lift then peddle it again  
the guy with a 2 barrel, his motor keeps pulling to about 7200 RPM, smooth acceleration never breaking traction(sp)  and out deeps  the big motor into the corner......

32MORGAN wrote on 10/29/09 at 9:37pm:

I guess my answer would be, I would want a motor with some built in "reliability" ( a word nobody has addresed yet).  We'll see how these JR Motorsports engines hold up pulling around an extra 550 lbs.  Not saying they can't, just saying this could be interesting...............

I think you are looking in the right direction when you talk about reliability, although the 32-40 lb cranks don't "have" to be run with a 2bbl, just ask the LM guys, they all use them in those $30,000.00 pieces, I do think a heavier crank will pan out better for ya' in the long run.  One of my biggest concerns with the big motors and 4bbl's is there will be guys out there that can not "hook" the power and there will be car controll problems.  The Modified class is starting to develop a "crash fest" attitude and I think it is becuase a lot of the guys have more power than they know how to handle (and the fact that a lot of the guys know nothing about the sophisticated rear suspension).  The racing was better back when the motors were less exotic and there actually "was" claiming going on.  Time will tell..........

On another subject ------ Really glad to see you are moving into the SS.  The class needs cars and I'm sure you will bring a quality team and be an asset to the division.  Good luck to ya' in 2010............

Don't know about the "crew" part, but beware I will have my eye on everyone...............lol..  Again - good luck in 2010..............

sjv d , you make good points. that is the extreme and i'm over it just defending the fact that i beleive the new rules will allow more people to race in this class as well as those that already invested into the 2bbl stuff. it's my opinion that becuase of all the money racers are skipping the ss and going straight to imca mods, mostly because there's no car count and motor costs. now the motor, trans, rear gears and even tires are the same costs. somewhat of a latteral move back and forth, but only time will tell. something did have to change and i dont think many disagree with that. i read your advise on 4m and hear and resect your thoughts. kirk

smartguy wrote on 10/29/09 at 2:14pm:



Thanks for pointing out the obvious for us  

Do you have a SS or any other car smart guy?

Now that's funny right there!  

sj_valley_dave wrote on 10/30/09 at 3:16pm:


that would be 4 someone's