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Re: 2010 WEST COAST STREET STOCK RULES
Reply #66 - 10/24/09 at 8:29am

Hogracer, if the Boss says you gotta wear pink underwear on the outside of your pants, then yup, it's his sandbox, and you gotta wear pink underwear...... it sucks, but if Chris tells me I gotta wear pink underwear when I flag at HIS racetrack, then you will either see me in pink underwear (not a pretty sight) or you will not see me at all (my choice).

And as for the comparison between Swindell and Chris Kearns, I have worked for both of them, and Chris beats him as a better person, boss, and gentleman than Swindell hands down. I will continue to work for Chris, and I quit Swindell after one season.

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hogracer3d LMR God Offline We bust our a$$ to kick yours-!!! Posts: 3933	Re: 2010 WEST COAST STREET STOCK RULES Reply #67 - 10/24/09 at 10:51am True, since it's his sand box. But if he treated you like that, he would likely find himself in a discrimination or labor lawsuit so fast it would make his head spin. And he would loose, then be lucky to have his sandbox for another year. Again, just a anaolgy
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Reply #68 - 10/24/09 at 11:33am

flagdude wrote on 10/24/09 at 8:29am:

Hogracer, if the Boss says you gotta wear pink underwear on the outside of your pants, then yup, it's his sandbox, and you gotta wear pink underwear...... it sucks, but if Chris tells me I gotta wear pink underwear when I flag at HIS racetrack, then you will either see me in pink underwear

Good to know!

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hogracer3d LMR God Offline We bust our a$$ to kick yours-!!! Posts: 3933	Re: 2010 WEST COAST STREET STOCK RULES Reply #69 - 10/24/09 at 11:42am A pink underware'd flagman would put butts in the stands lol
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Missle Motorsports LMR God Offline Sportsman & Modified #57m Posts: 1339 Racecar Ranch, Calif.Foothills	Re: 2010 WEST COAST STREET STOCK RULES Reply #70 - 10/24/09 at 11:44am So if you build a SS under the New SMS 2010 rules, is that car now locked into racing @ SMS only, or would that car be Legal to race at other Calif. Tracks, under their current E/W Style Rules still?
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hogracer3d LMR God Offline We bust our a$$ to kick yours-!!! Posts: 3933	Re: 2010 WEST COAST STREET STOCK RULES Reply #71 - 10/24/09 at 11:44am chassieguy wrote on 10/23/09 at 9:21pm: The rules change makes it easier for a IMCA Stock guy to race this class. All I need to do is change carb and can be probably a top 5 car with out having to buy 600 dollars in tires. OK, but 20 other cars do have to buy $600 in tires to race
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mijo4 LMR Senior Offline THE MIJO SPECIAL- GETS EM EVERY TIME Posts: 260 SANTA MARIA	Re: 2010 WEST COAST STREET STOCK RULES Reply #72 - 10/24/09 at 12:17pm ..... it sucks, but if Chris tells me I gotta wear pink underwear when I flag at HIS racetrack, then you will either see me in pink underwear (not a pretty sight) or you will not see me at all (my choice). WOULD THAT BE A THONG OR JUST GRANNYS- ROFLMDAO MIJO
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Re: 2010 WEST COAST STREET STOCK RULES
Reply #73 - 10/24/09 at 12:25pm

mijo4 wrote on 10/24/09 at 12:17pm:

..... it sucks, but if Chris tells me I gotta wear pink underwear when I flag at HIS racetrack, then you will either see me in pink underwear (not a pretty sight) or you will not see me at all (my choice).

WOULD THAT BE A THONG OR JUST GRANNYS- ROFLMDAO
MIJO

You would be the one wanting to know that, now wouldn't you!! LOL

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TIM_BEWLEY LMR God Offline road zombie Posts: 1629	Re: 2010 WEST COAST STREET STOCK RULES Reply #74 - 10/24/09 at 2:18pm Missle Motorsports wrote on 10/24/09 at 11:44am: So if you build a SS under the New SMS 2010 rules, is that car now locked into racing @ SMS only, or would that car be Legal to race at other Calif. Tracks, under their current E/W Style Rules still? these are sms rules only at this point.
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Meneley1 Ex Member	Re: 2010 WEST COAST STREET STOCK RULES Reply #75 - 10/24/09 at 2:30pm So once again, I assume heads & intakes are now allowed to be ported? Shaft rockers are legal? Any size carb? Weekly division? Completely open except for steel heads, block & solid cams? Are these rules official or will there be more changes before the 1st race next season?
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hschamp90 LMR Senior Offline Posts: 374	Re: 2010 WEST COAST STREET STOCK RULES Reply #76 - 10/24/09 at 5:37pm It should definitely be clarified that it's no porting of heads & intake. If not all that does is increase costs for the racer. For an EvsW car they have too buy at least (6) tires, buy a new gear, intake and a 4bbl. $1500 dollars!!!!
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DaveBauerSC6 LMR God Offline GATOR Eng 661-833-6127 Posts: 603 Bakersfield, CA	Re: 2010 WEST COAST STREET STOCK RULES Reply #77 - 10/25/09 at 11:11am I want to thank CK for getting the rules out early. It would be normal for the rules to be posted well after the promoters workshop and all the racers caping on the short notice. Like the rules or not, all posts should start with a thank you.
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Sparky56 LMR God Offline Z-Boyz Racing Posts: 982	Re: 2010 WEST COAST STREET STOCK RULES Reply #78 - 10/25/09 at 11:54am Thank you CK. Any motor over 365" on a 4bbl. should be 3150#. That's fair for the 2bbl. guys...........
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Meneley1 Ex Member	Re: 2010 WEST COAST STREET STOCK RULES Reply #79 - 10/25/09 at 12:01pm These are the rules, everything goes. Like Bauer said at least the rules are out early with plenty of time to build for next year. At least we got that.
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Reply #80 - 10/25/09 at 8:12pm

Tires are Cheaper = that's a plus and everyone freaked when American Racers were being trashed like 4 years ago for Hoosiers in the IMCA's but they got over it.

The engines are cheaper to build. You can find any good modified motor on here or anywhere..

The Tranny is going to be cheaper as well .. As an investment at first its going to cost yes but in the run its going to be cheaper. Modified guys will be able to cross use rims and tires as well as motors and trannys if something happened.

A lot of people get all worked up when they hear 4bbl and think they can't keep up... IMCA Tire is smaller and breaks traction a lot easier than the Dirt Bozz. More power to those tires just means your going to spin the tires and get passed. Street Stocks win big open shows that allow 4bbls with 2bbls cause if the track is dry slick that 4bbl is going to make you go backwards.

Don't get worked up CK is doing something about it to attempt to save a division that has been a 12 - 18 car division for 5 or 6 + years now. I'm sure Scott is going to follow with the same rules.

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Reply #81 - 10/28/09 at 8:12am

Schweitzer_82 wrote on 10/25/09 at 8:12pm:

A lot of people get all worked up when they hear 4bbl and think they can't keep up... IMCA Tire is smaller and breaks traction a lot easier than the Dirt Bozz. More power to those tires just means your going to spin the tires and get passed. Street Stocks win big open shows that allow 4bbls with 2bbls cause if the track is dry slick that 4bbl is going to make you go backwards.

Then why allow them ?? If a 2bbl on big c.i. is good enough, then why confuse the issue with a 4bbl......???

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hogracer3d LMR God Offline We bust our a$$ to kick yours-!!! Posts: 3933	Re: 2010 WEST COAST STREET STOCK RULES Reply #82 - 10/28/09 at 8:57am I'd like to know who moved this thread over here, and why?
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Reply #84 - 10/28/09 at 12:35pm

Sorry guys. I assumed the thread had slowed down enough to keep it off the first page of Saturday Night Racer, so I moved it to the SMS section so it would be easier to find for additional discussion.

I moved all of the rules discussions here for the same reason. I just though it would be easier to find all of these threads instead of having to dig back to past pages on SNR.

Not trying to minimize the discussion.

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Reply #85 - 10/28/09 at 7:27pm

OLD SCHOOL#6 wrote on 10/28/09 at 8:12am:

Schweitzer_82 wrote on 10/25/09 at 8:12pm:

A lot of people get all worked up when they hear 4bbl and think they can't keep up... IMCA Tire is smaller and breaks traction a lot easier than the Dirt Bozz. More power to those tires just means your going to spin the tires and get passed. Street Stocks win big open shows that allow 4bbls with 2bbls cause if the track is dry slick that 4bbl is going to make you go backwards.

Then why allow them ?? If a 2bbl on big c.i. is good enough, then why confuse the issue with a 4bbl......???

1) So they over power the tires

2) I was told 4 bbl is harder on the motor. Hopefully this will keep guys from buying high dollar, lightweight bottom ends

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Reply #86 - 10/28/09 at 8:38pm

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Sorry guys. I assumed the thread had slowed down enough to keep it off the first page of Saturday Night Racer, so I moved it to the SMS section so it would be easier to find for additional discussion.

I moved all of the rules discussions here for the same reason. I just though it would be easier to find all of these threads instead of having to dig back to past pages on SNR.

Not trying to minimize the discussion.

Is that cool?

LOL I never look at the TRACK THREADS - I wondered what happened to the RULES Discussions...

Only STUMBLED on it here!!

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Reply #87 - 10/28/09 at 9:02pm

Chris Kearns wrote on 10/28/09 at 7:27pm:

1) So they over power the tires

2) I was told 4 bbl is harder on the motor. Hopefully this will keep guys from buying high dollar, lightweight bottom ends

1) You have opened up the c.i. rule. Cars with big engines and 2bbl carbs will not have a problem over powering the harder tire compound. I have seen the engines of the past (365 c.i.) with 2bbl carbs over power tracks that just slick off a little (with the medium compound tire). That is why I say why a 4bbl ??

2) You are very correct, a 4bbl is harder on a motor, which means a guy "must" buy higher dollar bottom end parts, whether they buy "light" stuff or not just kinda depends on personal preference.

Please don't take this as a personal attack on you. I think you made a reasonable decision changing the tire, and doing so there was no reason to change the engine rule because it will take a lot "less" motor to use them. This is one of those deals where you and I just have two different points of view, I just hope everything works out for the best....................jmo

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