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Reply #88 - 11/25/06 at 12:00am
 
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Reply #89 - 11/25/06 at 12:08am
 
We used up all of our $ going to pahrump. Only to get screwed at the payout window. Sparky looked good down there.
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Reply #90 - 11/25/06 at 8:36am
 
I too was amazed by the lack of support from up here for the Bottom's Up. I really figured the count to be around 35+ cars.

I do have to agree that the present E-W drivers should set the rules. I just wanted to kick in my 2cents. I really love this class and hope it doesn't get out of hand where people decide to step down to lower classes. Or worst of all, QUIT!

If we could get our promoters on the same page up here and with your rules that would be great. I'm sure Darrell would agree that Tom at Chow would be there (I put John at Ocean in here too but with the SS going away ???), I doubt anyone else would follow.

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Reply #91 - 11/25/06 at 10:29am
 
bluebyu wrote on 11/25/06 at 9:05am:
After you guys switch to aluminum bodies I would suggest you change the name to The E/W Posse Cars.


Next your going to tell me our new EW prototype car looks like a posse car...

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Reply #92 - 11/25/06 at 7:32pm
 
http://www.dirtmotorsports.com/corp/images/media/2006ProStockRulebook.pdf

Whats everyones opinion on this rule package. It is kinda long winded but it does incorporate alot of ideas posted on here. And the body diagram pictures are wrong. They just got lazy like SMS roll cage diagram
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Reply #93 - 11/26/06 at 10:49am
 
these are my prototypes. trying to find out which nose and side board works best. the bodies are the white enamal baked steel.



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Reply #94 - 11/27/06 at 9:22am
 
Respectfully gotta disagree bluebyu. I do not know how many "Open Shows" you went to, but you made the statement that even the open shows don't allow aluminum bodies. This year aluminum bodies were allowed and were ran at Chowchilla, Kings, Pahrump and Imperial open shows. I know this for a fact as we were there and saw them, along with a large number of fiberglass cars that were at Imperial. We had a steel body and did not see anyone getting fired up over having their aluminum body torn up by a steel body. The 2nd largest car count of any of the mid Cal or Southern Cal open shows was at Imperial, with 40 cars, behind Chows huge turnout, which just happened to have some of the most Open rules of all. Toms deal was if you were legal somewhere you were legal there.
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Reply #95 - 11/27/06 at 11:33am
 
No they did not dwindle to 6 cars. We ran the points deal at Tulare and had a high of 24 cars and low of 14 during that season. The reason it went away was that the promoter was having problems with his paychecks. Then he went to a special shows only type format, no weekly races in any class. You mention Hanford and Santa Maria and their tightness years ago re: rules, thats great, but that was then. The rules at the Open Shows in the Southern part of the state have gotten away from the steel body requirements at the Open Shows. If Tom allowed a QC in a S/S that's too bad as I know of zero tracks that will allow a QC in a S/S. Tom had the only show that I know of that did not have/enforce a weight rule. The 3rd place car at Imperial this last weekend was DQ for weighing in at 2989. Personally we don't care that Antioch's or Petaluma's  Open Shows don't allow aluminum or fiberglass bodies. The rules they use in both regular races and their "Open Races" are written so that we are not legal anyway.
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Reply #96 - 11/27/06 at 2:22pm
 
I really dont think most drivers want the aluminum body because their looking for an extra 10-20 cars off the car.  We already allow aluminum hoods. ( I ran steel).  In any case, I think most drivers think its a pain in the A@@ to paint the bodies every time you have to replace it.
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Reply #97 - 11/27/06 at 3:41pm
 
I agree Billy. It's not the weight, we all have to be at 3,000 lbs. It's the ease of pounding the aluminum back flat and the biggest deal, not having to deal with the painting issues. We went white like Darrell just because of the painting deal.
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Reply #98 - 11/27/06 at 5:37pm
 
Stock production items still on a SS

Clip
Lower control arms
steering box
Rear end
multi leaf springs
spindles
brakes (most guys)
Front rotors

None of this stuff is found on a LM.  I think as long as you keep these items stock it will never be a LM.
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Reply #99 - 11/27/06 at 7:39pm
 
We ran against several LLM's at Fallon with coil-overs, and they all were among the ( 3D & 72 ) victim's.

Don't forget to remind them to move the motor back foreward to the stock location, leave the Brinn at home, and then bring em on.
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Reply #100 - 11/27/06 at 8:16pm
 
And you will most likely find the LLM"s that are closer to SS got whooped buy the LLM's that were closer to Late Models.

I agree with hogracer. Bring'em on as long as they meet the rules. They'll have more fun runnin' SS. Make sure the bodies look like the after maket steel ones not like a LM.
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Reply #101 - 11/27/06 at 9:17pm
 
Maybe after we have a clear winner we should vote on the guidelines set in place with an aluminum body.  That's were it gets a little sticky..
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Reply #102 - 11/27/06 at 9:28pm
 
The way this is going, you should work on the old 68 LM. It will be legal to run EW next year...................
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Reply #103 - 11/27/06 at 9:31pm
 
it doesnt have a full clip or I would.  I thought we've done quite a bit to make sure you cant run a 3 link.
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Reply #104 - 11/27/06 at 9:57pm
 
imracin68j wrote on 11/27/06 at 9:31pm:
it doesnt have a full clip or I would.  I thought we've done quite a bit to make sure you cant run a 3 link.


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Reply #105 - 11/28/06 at 8:46am
 
Hey Sparky, you should have gone to Imperial. 40 cars showed up and there were, at the most, 8 leaf spring cars. I saw 4 links, 3 links, 5 coil setups and Z links. You would have been in 7th heaven  Smiley Smiley  The LLM that used to run at Chow would be low tech compared to some of the Southern Cal cars. Take out their QC and get rid of the wide 5's and they would have been a run of the mill car. At this point it really does not matter to us what is decided on the aluminum vs. steel body thing, but nobody is going to convince me that an aluminum body all of a sudden turns your car into a LLM. That is a pipe dream.
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Reply #106 - 11/28/06 at 2:44pm
 
An aluminum body doesn't make it a mod., not having front fenders would make it a mod.  As long as it shows up with fenders, it will be a "Stock Car".
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Reply #107 - 11/28/06 at 3:08pm
 
In my humble opinion- I doubt SMS would agree to Aluminum bodies.
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Reply #108 - 11/28/06 at 3:23pm
 
jrtracing wrote on 11/28/06 at 2:44pm:
An aluminum body doesn't make it a mod., not having front fenders would make it a mod.  As long as it shows up with fenders, it will be a "Stock Car".


so  Lee the "X" car from pahrump was a "stock Car"??
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Reply #109 - 11/28/06 at 3:54pm
 
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