Post by 55X on 05/04/10 at 7:31am
Just to get Robby's point across
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Title: Track Prep???? Post by gl_rayburn98 on 05/02/10 at 2:24pm So Breshears looked like he was going to quit after Ronnie Day decided to take the tractor and prep the track himself. I saw him walk off, yell at Day and then I didnt see him the rest of night. What is the end result in that? Is Breshears coming back? |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by SLM47 on 05/02/10 at 2:30pm I predict if you keep it up you will be racing barefoot in your backyard. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by gl_rayburn98 on 05/02/10 at 2:31pm what does that mean chet? |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by gl_rayburn98 on 05/02/10 at 2:35pm At least barfoot ownes his latemodel. You field filler! |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by gl_rayburn98 on 05/02/10 at 2:39pm I was standing next to Breshears when all that went down. CK's hands were tied. The sprinter drivers were crying about the track Friday and Saturday. Its crap that they can push their will on everything but then again, what do you do? Do you tell BK and Day to shut up and go back to their pits or do you let the Roosters run the hen house? I can understand Breshears being mad, it was just a hard weekend though on the track prep. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by 32MORGAN on 05/02/10 at 2:40pm that really has me laughin my *ss off. hope it works out well, tim and tom have put alot into this. from the stands i thought dry friday and tacky saturday was great,. i hate the greasyness of the track when it's wet. sprint car drivers are supposed to whine, you should know that gary. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by gl_rayburn98 on 05/02/10 at 2:47pm God I know. I was embarrassed how much they cried. I lost so much respect for BK this weekend. If you saw him in the pits it was.... Did you notice the guy that wasnt crying was putting the wood to everyone? Tarlton is on a rail. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by SLM47 on 05/02/10 at 3:03pm gl_rayburn98 wrote on 05/02/10 at 2:35pm:
Gary, I own my own LM and Im hardly a field filler, check Tulare results from last night. If you want to talk field filler, your whole class is a field filler.lol (just messin hobby guys). My point is it really is none of your business. If it where Chris or Tim would call and ask you. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by ministocker56 on 05/02/10 at 3:17pm good run last night chet , hey chet i would'nt worrie about it gary just jeluos he can't affoird a super late model hehe sorry gary , tommy tarlton put a woop on them |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by formercrewguy on 05/02/10 at 3:29pm I could just see Doug Fort allowing ANY racer to jump on his equipment and touch his track!!......lol |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by gl_rayburn98 on 05/02/10 at 3:39pm Well chet, you werent even there but you always have something to say. Ill make sure I check with you on what I can write about. I was working at the track last night back marker so calm yourself. And ministocker, I drove sprint cars for years. You know what those are right? I think push trucks go faster than you...lol. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by gl_rayburn98 on 05/02/10 at 3:42pm Backmarker47 I saw you finished 5th. Good job , were did you put the trophy? |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by ministocker56 on 05/02/10 at 3:49pm actuly gary chet was racing in tulary think he finished 5th , the only resine gary you had a sprint car is someoone else bought it for you |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by timMod47 on 05/02/10 at 4:02pm What does all this smack you guys are talking about right now has anything to do with Track Prep???? |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by gl_rayburn98 on 05/02/10 at 4:10pm Sorry Tim your right. Stupidness. The reason why I brought up the subject was that many of me and mine were talking about how crazy it was to see a racer take over and start working on the track. Again, CK was between a rock and a hard place. It was interesting enough to discuss thats all. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by gl_rayburn98 on 05/02/10 at 4:17pm ministocker56, dont you still live with your mama. Ask her to spell for you ....my name isnt garychet. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by crazy2020 on 05/02/10 at 4:35pm So How did Day do on the grader |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by timMod47 on 05/02/10 at 4:41pm crazy2020 wrote on 05/02/10 at 4:35pm:
Not good at all, |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by crazy2020 on 05/02/10 at 4:46pm But they all think they can do it :D |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by flagdude on 05/02/10 at 5:25pm Tim and Tom did a fine job. Gary.... or is it Chary....... or Gaet....... HAHAHAHAHA! Formercrewguy..... Doug would have left the track alone and not touched it.......... |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by mudslinger47 on 05/02/10 at 5:36pm Doug would have told them if you don't like it, load. Duane |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by flagdude on 05/02/10 at 5:39pm Ding Ding Ding!!!! Winner winner chicken dinner...... Good Job Chuane! |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by mudslinger47 on 05/02/10 at 6:17pm He also wouldn't give them there money back for entry/pit passes and if they proclaimed that they would never come back, Doug would have answered, "whats your point?" Doug was a man of few words, but you knew what they meant, the first time. Duane |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by flagdude on 05/02/10 at 6:23pm Don't you mean Chuane????? If I keep saying it enough it may stick!!!! Chuane..... Chuane.....Chuane.....Chuane.....Chuane..... It is kind of hypnotic......... ;D |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by SLM47 on 05/02/10 at 6:45pm Keep it up flagdude. lol Its amazing they got the track to stay tacky on two nights of racing. I have never seen that happen before. Usually if you race friday you can bet its gonna be dry slick the second night. Good job guys, that new clay must be working. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by flagdude on 05/02/10 at 6:56pm Hey, its only fair.... You named me flagdude, so I can name you Chuane!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by gl_rayburn98 on 05/02/10 at 7:44pm SLM47 tacky? what are you talking about? It was hard asphalt on Friday and they tried to bring it back. They were able to wet it again and get it to slick up and not be so abrasive. Saturday the water just wouldnt dry up on the track so it was kind of sloppy wet until the main. Officials actually had a water pump on the burm to drain the water off the track because it wouldnt soak up. The positive thing about it was that the tracks were opposite each night and it made setup a key component to winning. Vogt in modifieds on friday was unstoppable and then a back marker on Saturday. Tarlton and Murphy were the only sprint guys that seemed to have it figured out both nights. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by ministocker56 on 05/02/10 at 7:53pm actuly gary it's my house soo she live's with me , keep my mom out of this , i can say this you have never built a car from scratch & i would think you would even no how to , oh if you new how to read it said actuly gary chet was racing in tulary it never said garychet , hey tim or tom actuly both keep up the good work , tommy tarlton & peter had there car's set up just right |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by SawyerRacing98 on 05/02/10 at 8:21pm the track was not tacky, it was snot.... the track we raced on in the main should have been in hot laps.... qualifying was 3 hours late.... there was not one positive thing about the surface we had to race on. the track was so wet it was ripping the interiors out of the mods... not tacky...wet... it was horrible. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by SawyerRacing98 on 05/02/10 at 8:22pm SLM47 wrote on 05/02/10 at 6:45pm:
it wont go dry slick with 298572985729847 gallons of water on top of it |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by flagdude on 05/02/10 at 8:25pm darn Robby..... I think you missed two gallons....... ;D |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by OLD SCHOOL#6 on 05/02/10 at 8:26pm SawyerRacing98 wrote on 05/02/10 at 8:22pm:
Now that is about the funniest thing I (and Sara) have read in a long time..................... LOL |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by formercrewguy on 05/02/10 at 8:28pm I bet Tarlton,Vogt, and Thornton didn't complain....... |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Meneley1 on 05/02/10 at 8:33pm There IS a very positive thing to say about the track. EVERYBODY had the same track to race on both nights. It went from one extreme to another & made for some great racing. It showed who can really run on any given surface & who cannot. The winners loved the track & the losers hated it. That's the way it always goes. It's easier to blame the track prep than the car or the driver. I wouldn't change a thing on either night of racing with the exception that it could have gone a little quicker. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by timMod47 on 05/02/10 at 8:48pm wrote on 05/02/10 at 8:33pm:
Very well said, If you dont understand what he just said then! well i dont no what to tell you, |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by smart_guy on 05/02/10 at 8:52pm good job on the track saturday. it was nice to be getting hit with little chunks of clay (old skool SMS), than breating in dust (bakoish) |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by smart_guy on 05/02/10 at 8:53pm formercrewguy wrote on 05/02/10 at 8:28pm:
well besides having to scrape off all the clay saturday night, after not having none to scrape off any on friday night LOL ;D |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by flagdude on 05/02/10 at 8:56pm Nice for you.... At about lap 26 of the Sprint Car Main I started getting tired of being hit by little chunks of mud......... It was a lot better than being covered in black tire dust at the end of the night though. I will take the mud chunks over tire dust any night. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by smart_guy on 05/02/10 at 8:58pm lol |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by formercrewguy on 05/02/10 at 8:59pm flagdude wrote on 05/02/10 at 8:56pm:
Carefull.....breathing tire dust can lead to hoosierthelioma......... ;D |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by SLM47 on 05/02/10 at 9:03pm SawyerRacing98 wrote on 05/02/10 at 8:21pm:
Robby I wasnt there I was just going off of what people where saying about track. Sounds like opening night for the LMs where the track was just snotty. Like menely said its like that for everyone though. flagdude, on a serious note. They need to raise u up off the track for safety. Have u ever thought about that? |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by oldman98 on 05/02/10 at 9:14pm i was there saturday night only...i can't say anything about what i could not see...i don't know if robby is right about the amount of water but the track was greasy is the best way i can describe...i don't know why...but every one did run on the same track...the biggest question is what do i do with all the mud i came home with...lol...hope ck can find some more cause i think we brought home the top layer on the car...i have never seen so much except when we raced at chico after a main event... |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by SawyerRacing98 on 05/02/10 at 10:05pm its not about everyone having to race on the same track! its about have a track race on at all... for you that were not on the track you have no idea... this will tell you how wet it was in our heats... same thing happened to me as did crockett in his heat...we were leading it, and you hit the brakes to set the car and the tires locked up and slid on the "mud" and killed the engine... yeah it was that bad. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by ministocker56 on 05/02/10 at 10:30pm robby robby everyone has to run on the same track were it be sms or bako or hanford or , robby you & crockett were the only 2 that happined to , but i must say this you went from the back of the a-main to finish 5th nice run all on that same track , you both had backed it in to the corner a little to hard & when you did the rear tire's were up in the cusion that's what killed the motor's , but good job robby from last to 5th , tim & tom do 1 hell of a job , i bet both there wife's get mad at them staying so late or to get that track ready every week end , good job tim & tom |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by mudslinger47 on 05/02/10 at 10:42pm HEY KEARNS!!!!! Pullin' your hair out yet with the crybaby whiners? (on and off the track) What a joke they are, Give Thorton a call, I bet he thinks it was just right!!!! Robby, now I see why Scott said what he said. You guys don't need race cars, you need baby carriages. Take a pill and get ready for next week. ;) Duane PS Hey flag dud, Chets right you need to be high when you do your job. Hmmm, does that sound right? |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by NAIL IT WHOYA. on 05/02/10 at 10:43pm Yeah Robby you shouldn't back it into the corner.... That stalls the engin... |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by SLM47 on 05/02/10 at 10:54pm NAILIT wrote on 05/02/10 at 10:43pm:
LOL best line of the nite. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by smart_guy on 05/03/10 at 12:20am randy brown had it figured out for 24.999999999999 laps til thornton passed him. everybody had to race the same track, and it was the best modified race saw all year ::) :P |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by heyyou#27 on 05/03/10 at 6:37am formercrewguy wrote on 05/02/10 at 8:59pm:
I never heard that one before, almost fell outa my chair laughing! :D |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by flagdude on 05/03/10 at 8:52am Chris and I have discussed raising the flagstand, Doug Fort and I have discussed it, Dave Swindell and I have discussed it, I am the one that does NOT want it raised. I have many reasons for this, but the ones that come to mind first and foremost are: 1) I will be too high (yes Chuane, I got the joke). The drivers have a tough time seeing me now, winged Sprints barely see me as it is. I have to crouch down to be seen, not good. 2) If you did raise the flagstand, that would leave me standing on a small platform with the flags with nowhere to run to. You know that if I am up on a platform, some pesky Sprint Car is going to want to be up there with me and I will have no place to go. 3) If I am on a raised platform, I will be unable to assist in re-aligning cars on a yellow. I do that quite a bit as anybody that goes to SMS can tell you. 4) At least now, I can run out the gate behind me towards the grandstands if a car does decide to "come visit" the flagstand. Thanks for thinking of me Chuane (see, that covers both Duane and Chet), but I am perfectly happy with the Flagstand exactly where it is at. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by flagdude on 05/03/10 at 8:54am Hoosierthelioma...... Thats funny right there......I don't care who you are........ |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Late_Model_Mark on 05/03/10 at 9:16am Just curious if I got this right. Fridays track was dry and slick, some liked it , the winged dune buggys did not. Come Saturday the sprinters took matters into their own hands kinda and Ronnie Day jumped on the grader and worked on the track as opposed to the regular SMS crew? Is this close? Saturdays track was super moist and dust free, some did not like it (Mr. Sawyer for sure, that's his right) and some liked it a lot. Is this correct? It seems like the GSC flexed some muscle or is that way off the mark? Ain't judgin' the deal just curious. Was the crowd good? I would think so. Late Model Mark |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by smart_guy on 05/03/10 at 9:23am crowd was a typical GSC crowd, "whered all these d@mned people come from???!!!". lol friday night was also a pretty good crowd conisdering this was the first time SMS raced on a friday night in 5 years. saturday night if you got there after 6 you had to park half a mile away track was drier than bako friday night, saturday night was heavier than petaluma. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by formercrewguy on 05/03/10 at 9:42am Late_Model_Mark wrote on 05/03/10 at 9:16am:
I was wondering the same thing,Mark. If this happened, I am highly disappointed in CK, allowing a non-employee to work on the track. It's disrespectfull at the least....... |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by NAIL IT WHOYA. on 05/03/10 at 9:54am No, I belive SMS track crew worked late Friday night til about 2:30 am on Saturday morning re prepping the track.... Thats what the announcer told the crowd... On Saturday night the track was a wet slick early on and apparently the sprint drivers still were not happy. It just took a little longer to run the track in. One of the sprint drivers jumped on the tractor and started fu$#%^ing with the inside berm.... he didn't have much success in my opinion... |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by NAIL IT WHOYA. on 05/03/10 at 9:57am wrote on 05/03/10 at 9:52am:
Thats not neccessarily true.... CK was in an awkward and difficult situation... I believe he does care about his employees.... If Breshears is upset or P--- OFF well I can certainly understand that too |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by 81RACERS__DAD on 05/03/10 at 10:12am I think your wrong about Chris on this one. I don't know what happened "behind the scenes" but it looked like the driver on the grader was just building up the berm on the south end. I got there about 5:30, so he my have been working it earlier too? Chris has an obligation to put on a "show" for the race fans. No show, no dough. I'm sure he has to walk a fine line between the racers and employees and you can't please everyone. But he has to do whatever it takes to put put on a show and if that ruffle feathers, so be it. We as race fans have seen, SMS be good and bad and everything in between, and this includes when Doug was promoting. Some of his tracks on Sat night with the Woo, were terrible dry slick and dusty. Other times wicked fast. That's the nature of two night shows.This Sat. night is was greasy early, but came in and Tarlton was doing low 12's in traffic during the main. Smart guy is right. The Modified main was classic. Thorton came on about lap 20 and was on a rail on the top groove. Tim and Tom had one night to prep the track with new clay. The track was still very smooth with the exception of turn three early. Track prep is both science and luck. The luck part comes with outside elements. I think the time and efforts the team at SMS puts in is nothing but phenominal and should be commended. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by NAIL IT WHOYA. on 05/03/10 at 10:24am Tarlton in the low 12s? I had him at 13.02 in clear traffic |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by 81RACERS__DAD on 05/03/10 at 10:41am Sorry...Math skills diminishing.HIGH12's low 13's is what i meant to say. We caught him with a 12.8 when he had a good run from my son's phone stop watch. I don't know how fast Murphy was. I think he was held up by the second place car. I think that was the 15 yr old? Kid was good. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by NAIL IT WHOYA. on 05/03/10 at 11:39am Yep... The kids are getting younger and younger |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by timMod47 on 05/03/10 at 3:07pm date=1272924354] SMS VIDEOS wrote on 05/03/10 at 1:38pm:
You are so right, I wish some of the drivers could understand what you just wrote, but some of them just don't get it...[/quote] |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by ministocker56 on 05/03/10 at 9:58pm was on my way home a few ago around 9:30 & they were out at the track still working on it |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by 55X on 05/04/10 at 7:31am Just to get Robby's point across
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by imracin68j on 05/04/10 at 7:42am dry slick tracks are harder on your engines than heavy tracks? Those cars probably weighed 3300 when it was all over. I'd take a dry track to that any day. When a tracks like that you don't even need a good car setup. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by timMod47 on 05/04/10 at 7:54am Looks like my car did some nights when i was racing, i could show you many pictures even from different tracks, i have even had body damage from the clay so heavy, I had nights many years ago at sms in my mini stock and hobby stock where i couldn't see out the front and had to drive the rest of the race looking threw a pin hole, So like racecar35 said, Suck it up! |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by 55X on 05/04/10 at 8:03am I have no issue. Just showing a picture/1000 word thing. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by fromthegrandstands on 05/04/10 at 8:42am I look at that Clay on that car and think.... Ah yeah, I remember SCRAPING MOD off my Dad's Car and off Danny's car back in the late 70's / Early 80's like that... and that's why we used a sprayer with (I think it was Diesel and Trans Fluid) on the bodies, and under the fenders...the wipe down the bodies so the Clay/Mud would just basically FALL OFF... |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by benstrans on 05/04/10 at 9:29am Spray it with WD 40 and it comes right off. "coiurse I forgot the WD last week, but I won't next time. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by GATE KEEPER on 05/04/10 at 9:30am No matter what everyone is saying, Chris and The guys are doing something Rite. Santa Maria Speedway Sure seems to be a hit. They cant stop talking about it. "Bad Press is Better then No Press" lol |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by gl_rayburn98 on 05/04/10 at 10:21am I think as long as the track is graded and they dont change how much water they put on the track too drastically then the track should be fine. Breshears said that on friday he didnt get a chance to grade the track so that might be why is was so dry and packed. That night after we got off the track Breshears was on the track grading it. I am no expert but I think that as long as the prep stays somewhat consistant then the track would be consistant. By the way, dad talked with Tarlton yesterday and he loved the track both nights..lol |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by benstrans on 05/04/10 at 10:23am wrote on 05/04/10 at 10:17am:
WD by the gallon from Harbor Freight. Put into my own sprayer. Baby oil or ATF works well too, just thicker. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by smart_guy on 05/04/10 at 1:13pm 55X wrote on 05/04/10 at 7:31am:
thats a lot of clay. ive seen cars look like that after a night at petaluma also |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Linson-34 on 05/04/10 at 3:16pm imracin68j wrote on 05/04/10 at 7:42am:
I agree. I like baby oil too by the way. Cheap and works good. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by dario on 05/04/10 at 5:40pm 81RACERS__DAD wrote on 05/03/10 at 10:41am:
ck was up next to the announcers booth with a stopwatch during the main he said they were running in the 13's. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Patch on 05/04/10 at 5:45pm The track never really came in. At the end of the night it was just about ready for heat races. that being said it was a step in the right direction. Now they just need to fine tune it a little and the track will be hooked up again. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by joeclab88mod on 05/04/10 at 9:04pm I think you guys are missing the point. I raced there both nights. First night the track was awesome. The only drivers that complained were the sprintcar guys. So after friday Tom did what he was asked to do and soaked it. Then saturday it was too wet for the sprintcar guys. So not only did we have to pack it in for them once, we had to do it a second time, still no big deal. But when only 4 out of the 20 sprints there helped us pack it got a little frustrating. Instead of telling the mod guys to suck it up, you need to realize that we went with the flow both nights. It was the winged guys that were being the whiners. One last thing, you guys that think we were scraping 80's and 90's main event mud off our cars are all wrong. I used to scrape that mud too and saturday night's mud after the main was hot lap mud, big difference. Not whining just sharing my point of view. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by ministocker56 on 05/04/10 at 9:31pm keep up the good work tom & tim & crew |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Chris Kearns on 05/05/10 at 11:33pm 1) Ronnie Day was not on the grader. He was on the Skip & Drag and all he did was screw up the berm 2) I really thought all of the drivers (Mods and Sprints) were fine. No one really complained to me about the track. I got comments and advise, but no whining. My main concern was the fans getting a show and not so much dead time 3) There has already been about 66 man hours put in the track since monday. 4) Tim & Tom will get it figured out. This new clay is very, very hard to figure out. We mixed some of the old clay in on Monday. 5) Track prep is without a doubt the toughest job at a race track. If a asphalt promoter tells me how hard he has got it, I am going to punch him in the mouth!!! 6) I am tired of everyone that can drive a tractor thinking they can prep a dirt track. THEY HAVE NO CLUE !!! Thats all. Thanks. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Willma-Fingerdo on 05/05/10 at 11:58pm My uncle can do it. 
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Willma-Fingerdo on 05/06/10 at 12:02am Here Chris, since we are helping you. http://www.ehow.com/how_5879255_promote-dirt-race-car-track.html |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Chris Kearns on 05/06/10 at 11:13pm Willma-Fingerdo wrote on 05/06/10 at 12:02am:
OK, now I know what to do! |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by NAIL IT WHOYA. on 05/07/10 at 12:50am Willma-Fingerdo wrote on 05/05/10 at 11:58pm:
Isn't that Ronnie day? |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Late_Model_Mark on 05/07/10 at 5:40am Dang winged dune buggy whiners,LOL. Hope ya made some $$$ Chris. Late Model Mark |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by dave_lewis on 05/07/10 at 7:39am Chris Kearns wrote on 05/05/10 at 11:33pm:
Chris, Having been in a position to experience the same issues ( with some of the same racers IE ; Day, Kaeding,etc.) I know EXACTLY how you feel ! You and your crew are doing a great job ! Dave |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by NAIL IT WHOYA. on 05/07/10 at 8:45am I agree the guys will get it figured out.... they have proven that in the past. the only thing I took from Saturday night is the track took time to bring it in, thats to be expected when a complete water and track prep operation took place in the early morning hours of the same day... getting all the push trucks out there and burn up some gas helps and edjucate the crowd on what is going on. I heard a little bit of that from the announcers on saturday night. for most of us as fans it's no big deal. It adds to the anticipation of seeing some great racing later in the evening and seeing which teams will get it figured out. Some people start yelling and criticizing the track prep with no appreciation of the work and sacrafice that goes into the whole operation..... to me this shows their ignorance or maybe their arrogance... your at the races with friends and a cold beer... what can be wrong with that? CK, dont worry! Sprintcar fans are used to sitting around waiting, they are used to "dead time" lol.... Chris Hodapp.... |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by sprintcar87s on 05/07/10 at 11:11am 6) I am tired of everyone that can drive a tractor thinking they can prep a dirt track. THEY HAVE NO CLUE !!! Thats all. Thanks.[/quote] RUN A CAT PAVER AROUND IT A COUPLE DOZEN TIME AND PUT 8 INCHES OF 1/2 ASPHALT ON IT!!!! |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by OLD SCHOOL#6 on 05/07/10 at 11:35am hobby87s wrote on 05/07/10 at 11:11am:
What good is a third mile freeway ?????? .................. LOL |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by benstrans on 05/07/10 at 3:38pm OLD SCHOOL#6 wrote on 05/07/10 at 11:35am:
Ask the Hawaiians. They had one, H-3, for many YEARS. Finally, they decided to extend it, but a VERY great cost. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Chris Kearns on 05/07/10 at 10:39pm hobby87s wrote on 05/07/10 at 11:11am:
RUN A CAT PAVER AROUND IT A COUPLE DOZEN TIME AND PUT 8 INCHES OF 1/2 ASPHALT ON IT!!!![/quote] If I paved it, even I would find something more exciting to do on Saturday nights. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Grumpy on 05/08/10 at 6:48am Chris Kearns wrote on 05/07/10 at 10:39pm:
If I paved it, even I would find something more exciting to do on Saturday nights.[/quote] Then, put the water truck on it before each event. It would be consistent and they wouldn't complain about mud on their cars! |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by sprintcar87s on 05/08/10 at 1:25pm chris if you paved it ......it would be like a motocross tack! LOL stick to promoting! lol BUT wait isnt there a asphalt oval track....1/4 mile dragstrip....and a asphalt kart track in the works for the santa maria area? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by ministocker56 on 05/08/10 at 10:57pm the track tonight was super dry , i thought i was at bako & i talked to a few sprint car guy's they did'nt like it neather |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Sparky56 on 05/08/10 at 11:06pm how minny daze did the wind blow. they didnt aloud for the wind. probably shoodent pack the track with the water truck. doug didnt |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by smart_guy on 05/08/10 at 11:19pm ministocker56 wrote on 05/08/10 at 10:57pm:
glad i stayed home |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by READ#29 on 05/08/10 at 11:35pm I would rather take a smooth dry track over a rough tacky track. Thanks Tim & tom had a blast tonight. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by pushin_the_cushin on 05/09/10 at 5:01am NAILIT wrote on 05/07/10 at 8:45am:
That's a great post, Chris. Some of us fans would rather be watching wheel-packing take a little longer one week, or sitting through some dust the next week. I know that for the last 2 Saturdays, I'd rather been sittin' at the track with friends drinking a few cold-ones watching some racing. But I have had to put in some 12hr (nights) at the job.... People need to remember Arizona lost 2 tracks over the last couple of years. "What if" 2 tracks in California closed? Say, SMS and Bako.....Then most people on this site would have to find something else to complain about. Appreciate what you have, and don't take it for granted. (Like I did!) The WORST night at the races, is still better than your best day at work.... |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by pushin_the_cushin on 05/09/10 at 5:16am wrote on 05/09/10 at 2:04am:
Hey racecar35, at 2:01am, you were on another thread asking "How was the track?" http://www.latemodelracer.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1273385402 3 min. later you're on this thread claiming you've talked to sprint car guys about how the track was....Not sure if it is BS or your just wanting to stir the pot. Either way, it seems you have a hard-on for SMS. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Wooliebuger1 on 05/09/10 at 9:20am I am a stands fan, and I too appreciate the fact we do have a track at Santa Maria, to go and watch Saturday night racing. Like has been said be it however the track turns out, you have several people that work their butts off trying to provide the best racing surface they can, and for that I am very thankful. If there are some that think they can do a better job, come on down, I am sure T&T would love to take a break and spend the extra time with family and friends. Heavy and wet or dry and slick, its all part of racing, and those that prep cars and those who drive them, my hat is always off to adapting and winning or finishing a race....JMOO..Don |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by ministocker56 on 05/09/10 at 10:20am well it was'nt bs in fact they thought the factory stock's & mini's were going faster & they were onlu using 1/4 of the gas peddle because there was nothing to get a hold of |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by sprintcar87s on 05/09/10 at 6:00pm one thing about it....its the same track for everybody! ;D |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by formercrewguy on 05/09/10 at 6:29pm ministocker56 wrote on 05/09/10 at 10:20am:
I think you are an idiot.........it would be best if you just shut up and get your car ready and race............ |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by hobby31 on 05/09/10 at 8:23pm I like the dry slick, cause i know how to set up for it, didnt use 1 tearoff, did get a little dust in my beer during the spint race, but that silver bullet still tasted good, tackys good too as long as you can see |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by superstreetracer40 on 05/09/10 at 9:05pm Sparky56 wrote on 05/08/10 at 11:06pm:
Sparky, I didnt know the wind was going to come up, it's kinda hard to see the weather report when your having to spend all your time trying to get the track ready after my day Job. The water truck is empty when I use it to pack in the track. A pickup truck has one set of tires across the back and a water truck has two. Four tires gets it done in half the time so I can get home in time to say good nite to my three year old daughter. I know doug didn't use it. It would be nice if I had the time doug did. Hay, maybe you could come and help me, don't you have an old duele truck. LOL |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by ministocker56 on 05/09/10 at 9:17pm formercrewguy i'd like to see you say that to all the sprint car guy's , all i said is what the sprint car guy's told me , in fact they said they never have seen santa maria like that & never gone so slow at this track , soo inless you no what they said or , then maybe you need to shut up & maybe why you'r name is that formercrewguy , again i said what i was told & on my race car who are you to say or tell anybody to get my car done or , i'll get it done when i want to |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by timMod47 on 05/09/10 at 9:29pm Dont worry the track will get better, the new clay will get older and wont glaze over as bad, we are trying to change things up in order to find what will work best for now, wait tell we get an overcast day into a foggy night do you think it will go dry then? We had a hole week of high temp days last week and lots of wind. We could really use a doner big ass 4 door car or 1/2 ton pickup with a set of Hoosiers, we used to use the old 60's ford heavy haulier with street stock tires on it and it worked great tell someone blew it up,lol... A pickup works good cause we can put the small water tank in the back to add wheight, So if anyone out there would like to donate a car or truck that we could use out there for wheel packing that would be great, I donated the white chevy 3/4 ton track truck you see out there and i would use it but it has 8 lug rims and 16" wheels so it would be hard to come up with a set of race tires for it? |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by superstreetracer40 on 05/09/10 at 9:38pm Wooliebuger1 wrote on 05/09/10 at 9:20am:
Tom asked me to Thank everyone for the kind words of support over the last week. It's been a very rough week for him and he is harder on himself then any of you could ever be if the track is not perfect or the way he wanted. We know most of you all understand that track prep takes a lot of time and work and luck. With the new clay on the track it will take a little time for Tom to figure it all out and if only the rain would stop as the water level under the track keeps changing. One week he has it figured out and then more rain....ugh! Thank you for your cotinued support. It's not an easy task and very time consuming. Seeing his daughter only to say good nite on weekdays and Sunday's while he tries to recover is very hard on our family and takes it's toll. But as an ex-racing family we know the impact if there was nobody to prep the track and the impact it has on all of the fans and racing teams and their families. So Tom continues to do his best and hopes will learn the new clay sooner rather then later. Thank you, Susan Breshears (Tom's wife) |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by ministocker56 on 05/09/10 at 9:44pm both tom & tim bust there you no what off , keep up the good work , again all i said was the sprinter guy's were'nt very happy & yes there said a few word's about the track |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Smith3d on 05/09/10 at 9:46pm After seeing that car in the picture I agree with Robby, please don't forget that we pay good money to put on the show for the fans. If we wanted a mud bogg we would enter one. The fans pay 1/10th of what we spend to watch the race, just give us something to race on. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by superstreetracer40 on 05/09/10 at 10:11pm Smith3d wrote on 05/09/10 at 9:46pm:
I'm trying, I dont do this for the pay if I did it would't be enough. The old track last year was down to the sand base so we had to something. We all are try to make the best track for the rasers and the fans. Tom |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by miniguru27 on 05/10/10 at 7:26am Tom, we all know that youre doinng this for the love of the sport.Youre doing a great job keep it up. Mike W |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by oldman98 on 05/10/10 at 12:43pm i think that the different track conditions are great...it makes the teams work harder to get a set up to work...i'm glad its not the same every week...T&T...i just laugh at all the different people giving there input...the same track every week is nothing but a crutch cause everyone will know how to set up there cars...we are learning setup every night we go race...i'm just glad that everyone else is now trying to learn with us...puts everyone on the same playing field...T&T...any one offer to come and help with the track prep...i'm not including the info on the 8 pages of whining...keep up the good work... |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by timMod47 on 05/10/10 at 12:53pm oldman98 wrote on 05/10/10 at 12:43pm:
You are so right, different tracks keeps you wondering what the right setup should be, it also gives us different winners. This last race i saw a lot of the fast guys making changes to there cars on the grid just before they came out on the track, We know how to make it dry, We know how to make it real wet, We are trying to find a good hooked up track, And our goal is to see a new track record broke this year, But we still have a lot of work to do to find the right combo. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by mudslinger47 on 05/10/10 at 1:03pm Keep an eye here on the message board for the perfect balance of b!tch and moan and accolades, and then you'll have it!!!! ;D ;D ;D Duane |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by sprintcar87s on 05/10/10 at 2:29pm people like to post crap on here when all they do is sit in the stands and drink there beer and give there uneducated oppinon on how they think the track was on race night or how it was prepped! pay your money sit in the stands drink your beer and shut the hell up! the whole santa maria speedway crew works there butts of so you can do that!!! i bet they realy dont give a flyin crap what you think or what some sprintcar guys said!!!! to tom and tim and all the santa maria staff thanx for all your hard work! 
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Grumpy on 05/10/10 at 8:03pm [/quote]Now that's funny, I don't care how pissed you are ya gotta smile at that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Chris Kearns on 05/10/10 at 9:50pm wrote on 05/09/10 at 2:04am:
racecar35, I say you are full of s**t 1) Tommy Tarlton used a 10 compound last week on a dry slick track and his tire looked Awesome after the main. If a sprint used up a RC, than I think there setup was off. Stidhams tire looked pretty good to me. Yes, I to would like to see it faster and it will get there, but our winner came from 8th and second place came from 6th, so the racing was pretty good. It wasn't rough and like Pombo's car owner tells me every week. "Its the same for everyone" |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Sparky56 on 05/11/10 at 4:05am superstreetracer40 wrote on 05/09/10 at 9:05pm:
Don't get pissed at a post that wasn't about you! I haven't had a dually for years. Call Jim Fausel for some Doug Fort prep tips............. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by timMod47 on 05/11/10 at 7:51am [/quote] Call Jim Fausel for some Doug Fort prep tips.............[/quote] Come on Sparky, can`t you do better then that? that one is old, |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by fromthegrandstands on 05/11/10 at 7:57am Quote:
LOL - looks like a message to the "OTHER" #56 handle to me!! haha Funny Sparky!! ...btw, when do we get the BODIED Cars again? I'm getting too many things done around the house with all these SPRINT CAR races!!! |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by NAIL IT WHOYA. on 05/11/10 at 9:58am Tim And Tom got a deal with me, They dont tell me how to drink Beer and I dont tell them how to prep the track.... |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by timMod47 on 05/11/10 at 10:02am NAILIT wrote on 05/11/10 at 9:58am:
Lol... Now thats what i`m talking about! lol.. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Patch on 05/11/10 at 10:55am It really don't matter to me, Dry or Wet, Tacky or Slick, Smooth or Rough errrrr ok I don't like it real rough. Big holes can swallow a mini whole. But other than that it doesn't matter. I can't wait to see what we get this weekend. T&T you want to give us any hints? See you guys on saturday. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by superstreetracer40 on 05/11/10 at 11:01am Sparky56 wrote on 05/11/10 at 4:05am:
Hey Sparky, Tom's at work I am home sick and wanted to check the message board and was actully very surprised that you are thinking Tom was pissed at the post. The "they" you refer to is Tom. Everyone has thier idea's about how to prep better or different and how Doug did it. I just wanted to let everyone know that Tom trained for a year under Doug's right hand man (and best friend) Al as he was suffering from cancer and could no longer prep the track. He was also given Dougs hand written notes directly by Nettie to study while training under Al which he did. As said many times before the clay is different now then when Doug did it and in time Tom will have it fine tuned with this new clay. It just takes time and we would apprecaite your understanding during this process. Now as the wife of Tom, the track prep guy I have a few things to say that happens behind the sceens: To be honest I am getting a little tired of some people coming on here complaining about how bad it all is when you should all be greateful you have a local track to go to. My husband puts aprox 32-36 hours a week between preping the track and Saturday night that we (his wife and daughter) would much perfer him to be home with us because we actully like him :). The little money he makes pays for the hired help I need to pay to do things around the house that Tom would usually do so he really does not make anything for his work in the end. We would love to walk away from the track (this includes Tom) but he has been unable to find someone to train. One person did last year and after three weeks said it was way too much work and would no longer help. We would love to go camping for the weekend but can't so you can have a place to watch the best dirt track racing on the West Coast. Sunday Tom is so tired he sits in his easy boy chair and naps to get ready to start if all over again the next day. Not what I would call quality time with the family. Because the track can not pay a full year salary Tom must work a full time day job to cover the normal bills. So if any of you are willing and qualified to share this job with Tom or take it over please talk directly with Tom and or Chris. This is a serious offer Tom would love to walk away or at the very least be able to share this job with a qualified person so he could have one week off every 4 or 6 weeks just to get some rest, go camping and enjoy spending time with the daughter we waited 20 years to have. I know many of you don't care about our family life but we do and if he walked away from the track you would care because what kind of track would you have then? I am sorry I am very upset with some things I read on here and needed to vent. Tom knows it has not been the best track the last few weeks and does try "different" things to see how it reacts and so far it has not made the difference he is looking for. I know by my post you might think I am a mad wife who's husband is gone all the time. But we are a racing family and I actully support my husband working at the track but it's alot more work then any of you will ever understand. Thanks for letting me vent, Susan Breshears |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by 81RACERS__DAD on 05/11/10 at 11:23am Susan, I know it's hard, but don't take it personally. I remember the days before the internet and message board. Back in those days people were still bitchin', but in thier own circles. Now it's out there for everyone to see. And unfortunately, some of it is mean spirited. You are going to get complaints no matter what the track is like. Tom can't please everyone. What will matter is if Tom tries to cater to too many people. he need to just focus on setting the track up to the best of his ability and let the clay come in. He should know from racing, you don't change a lot of stuff from week to week. You need to be patient, take good notes and work with what you have. Chris ( and we as racers) should be very thankful there are guys like Tom who will take the time and sacrifice his family for our enjoyment. Like any other job or recreation that is generally volunteered, the thank yous are far less than the gripes, and it should be the other way around. 10% of volunteers do 90% of the work that 90% get credit for. You have my sincere gratitude for your efforts. Bob Jones |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by superstreetracer40 on 05/11/10 at 12:29pm Racer35 you said it the best "it will never be the same". It is what it is in "2010" and Tom does his best with what he has to work with. Bob you are also right. Most of this we don't take to heart people are allowed to talk and we enjoy reading it, however as you said sometimes it's just flat out "mean spirted". Tom is not looking for thank you's, every Saturday night of good racing is his thank you along with the smiles on the fans and racers faces as they leave the track. He is just looking for a bit of understanding of what's involved and time to get this new clay figured out. Thank you both, Susan |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Sparky56 on 05/11/10 at 3:45pm Hold on a minute! Go back to the bottom of pg. 6, that's where my post came from. He's doing a good job, and if he needs advice he can ask Jim who helped Doug for years.Didn't mean to get panties in a wod.................. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Grumpy on 05/11/10 at 5:00pm Susan, from what I've heard one guy wins and the rest blame the track. So if you take it to the next level the winners like the track and that leaves you know who to blame the track. I've done some work out there this winter and every time Tom is there before I get there and still there working when I am headed to my refrigerator. A lot of these posts are going to get their cars together, going to buy a car or are spectators, those of us that are drivers or own cars on the track appreciate all the work T&T do. I remember in the seventies when you had to wear goggles a handkerchief and keep your hand over your beer to keep the dust out. It wasn't a perfect world as the previous posts remember. I am grateful to have a local track, dedicated people and good friends to be with on Saturday nights. Taelor and I THANK YOU CRAIG |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Chris Kearns on 05/11/10 at 5:20pm wrote on 05/11/10 at 11:29am:
James. Get over it. Let the fact go, that I had to fire you for being a bad official. Do you work at a track now? Does your boss know that you are on here trash talking another race track? |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by hobby31 on 05/11/10 at 6:08pm I bought my first hobby stock from Tom and what a class act that guy is, I love the track and appriciate the time invested, it might be time consuming but I think tom loves every minute of it. and anybody talkin trash just dont know how to set up there car. Keep up the good work boys! yours truely, your favorite racer |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by formercrewguy on 05/11/10 at 6:24pm Chris Kearns wrote on 05/11/10 at 5:20pm:
Ah HAH!!!!!........a disgruntled ex-employee...........that explains it.....lol |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by superstreetracer40 on 05/11/10 at 6:31pm Sparky56 wrote on 05/11/10 at 3:45pm:
Thanks Joey, they are unbunched now :) lol |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by Thornton38 on 05/11/10 at 8:20pm I agree Tom and Tim are doing a great job! I helped with the track and new clay before the season started. I do think that they should listen and take in consideration what the drivers say and their advice about the track. example: stop packing the track with the water truck prior to the race and let the cars pack the track like in the past. That will prevent that track from being packed so tight that the moisture will not soak into the clay, and that will allow the cars to continue to peel back the track surface, to keep it tacky and from glazing over until the end of the night. I am not tring to bash or piss anyone off thats just my opnion and I have been racing for 21 years and work with dirt on a daily basis. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by superstreetracer40 on 05/11/10 at 10:09pm Thornton38 wrote on 05/11/10 at 8:20pm:
Hi Doug, I just got home and read your post. You did a great job helping us getting the new clay on the track and parking lot. I have listen to you and others. On Friday night you asked me to not pack the track and let the race cars do it. So on Saterday night of the two night show thats what I did. It worked great for you. You did win the main. LOL But lots of other people hated it. It took two hours for the cars to pack it in. But hay thanks for the advice. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by BIGSHOW3P on 05/11/10 at 10:38pm I KNOW YOU GUYS PUT NEW CLAY DOWN, BUT IT IS TOO PURE, YOU CAN TAKE THE CLAY OFF YOUR CARS AT THE END OF THE NIGHT, FORM IT INTO A BOWL AND BAKE IN YOUR OVEN OVER NIGHT THEN EAT CEREAL OUT OF IT THE NEXT MOURNING, TIM AND TOM YOU GUYS ARE TRYING, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT, BUT TRY GETTING SOME LOAMY MATERIAL, NOT SAND, AND MIX IT UP WITH THE NEW CLAY. BASICLY DIRTY UP THE CLAY. IT NEEDS SOMETHING IN IT TO PREVENT IT FROM BONDING SO TIGHT, YOUR NOT BUILDING A PAD FOR A SKYSCRAPER SO YOU DONT NEED THE COMPACTION LIKE A CONSTRUCTION JOB MIGHT REQUIRE IT TO BE. YOU MUST THINK LIKE A FARMER, LOOSE SOIL WILL BE BETTER THAN TIGHT SOIL, TRY PUTTING GYPSUM DOWN IF CHRIS WILL SPRING FOR IT, HELL HE CAN TALK A NUN OUT OF HER UNDERWEAR, SO HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT FOR FREE.. ALSO YOU WOULD NEVER SEE DOUG FORT DRIVE ON THAT RACE TRACK WITH A WATER TRUCK EMPTY OR FULL... JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. I AM ONLY SPEAKING FROM EXPIRENCE FROM FARMING AS YOUNG LADD AND DOING DIRT WORK FOR THE PAST 10-12 YRS.. AND IF YOU GUYS, TIM AND TOM, WANT HELP HIT ME UP AT THE RACES SATURDAY NIGHT AND I'LL ASSIST IN ANY WAY. PAUL POTTER |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by superstreetracer40 on 05/11/10 at 10:47pm If you all wont the same track Doug Fort did then talk to CK about starting the show as late as he did. ( After dark ) Day racing is hard on the clay. He Also didn't have the high horse power cars that we run now. ho and the soft tires! |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by superstreetracer40 on 05/11/10 at 10:57pm BIGSHOW3P wrote on 05/11/10 at 10:38pm:
We have all talked about this already. Many times. Bring it on. As far as the water truck, IT"S ALL I HAVE. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by smart_guy on 05/11/10 at 11:57pm superstreetracer40 wrote on 05/11/10 at 10:47pm:
probably get more fans by not starting so danged early. itd probably also be good for the track if it didnt see any cars til the sun goes behind the grandstands IMHO |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by timMod47 on 05/12/10 at 8:01am [quote author=616A64706B6C741073230 link=1272835491/128#133 date=1273642731]I KNOW YOU GUYS PUT NEW CLAY DOWN, BUT IT IS TOO PURE, YOU CAN TAKE THE CLAY OFF YOUR CARS AT THE END OF THE NIGHT, FORM IT INTO A BOWL AND BAKE IN YOUR OVEN OVER NIGHT THEN EAT CEREAL OUT OF IT THE NEXT MOURNING, TIM AND TOM YOU GUYS ARE TRYING, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT, BUT TRY GETTING SOME LOAMY MATERIAL, NOT SAND, AND MIX IT UP WITH THE NEW CLAY. BASICLY DIRTY UP THE CLAY. IT NEEDS SOMETHING IN IT TO PREVENT IT FROM BONDING SO TIGHT, YOUR NOT BUILDING A PAD FOR A SKYSCRAPER SO YOU DONT NEED THE COMPACTION LIKE A CONSTRUCTION JOB MIGHT REQUIRE IT TO BE. YOU MUST THINK LIKE A FARMER, LOOSE SOIL WILL BE BETTER THAN TIGHT SOIL, TRY PUTTING GYPSUM DOWN IF CHRIS WILL SPRING FOR IT, HELL HE CAN TALK A NUN OUT OF HER UNDERWEAR, SO HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT FOR FREE.. ALSO YOU WOULD NEVER SEE DOUG FORT DRIVE ON THAT RACE TRACK WITH A WATER TRUCK EMPTY OR FULL... JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. I AM ONLY SPEAKING FROM EXPIRENCE FROM FARMING AS YOUNG LADD AND DOING DIRT WORK FOR THE PAST 10-12 YRS.. AND IF YOU GUYS, TIM AND TOM, WANT HELP HIT ME UP AT THE RACES SATURDAY NIGHT AND I'LL ASSIST IN ANY WAY. PAUL POTTER This is a good idea and we have thought about it, Where do you get it? How much is it? Can we get it for Free? How can you apply it to the track? Well it work in a short Period of time, less then on week? Applied anytime, Gypsoil provides a variety of benefits for your soil: * Flushes out unwanted Magnesium, Aluminum, and Sodium * Aids biological processes in building soil structure * Loosens soil and reduces compaction * Improves residue breakdown, which adds more nutrients to your soil * Enhances soil’s water infiltration and water-holding capacity * Allows for faster drainage, which can mean more days in the field * Improves the balance of nutrients in the soil * Helps soil release nutrients to the crop * Improves rooting of plants for better drought tolerance * Does not adjust soil pH Tim. |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by sprintcar87s on 05/12/10 at 2:52pm Thornton38 wrote on 05/11/10 at 8:20pm:
COME ON NOW DOUG WE ALL KNOW THAT LISA TYPED THIS! LOL |
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Title: Re: Track Prep???? Post by BIGSHOW3P on 05/12/10 at 8:40pm This is a good idea and we have thought about it, Where do you get it? How much is it? Can we get it for Free? How can you apply it to the track? Well it work in a short Period of time, less then on week? I WILL MAKE SOME PHONE CALLS FRIDAY CAUSE ITS MY DAY OFF, AS IT IS HARD TO DO MUCH AT 4AM WHEN I GO TO WORK AND ITS 7PM WHEN I GET HOME. THATS ALL FOR NOW. PAUL POTTER |
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