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Message started by Chris Kearns on 10/22/09 at 9:25am

Title: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by Chris Kearns on 10/22/09 at 9:25am

http://www.chriskearnspresents.com/rulesfactorystocks.php

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by Frazier15 on 10/22/09 at 11:37am

Wow--

October, and we already have rules. Good job Ck-- :)

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by benstrans on 10/22/09 at 11:49am

Frazier15 wrote on 10/22/09 at 11:37am:

Wow--

October, and we already have rules. Good job Ck-- :)

Now THAT'S being on top of things!!

Allowing racers to plan ahead during the off season.

THANKS!!

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by dario on 10/22/09 at 12:10pm

well after all this is the "kearns administration"! commander in chief chris and first lady kari are doing even better than i thought and i had the highest hopes. cant wait till next season. (and this years banquet)!! the last banquet that i was at (besides the one at chris's house) was 1979.

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by John Hanson Racing #44 on 10/22/09 at 1:35pm

I love the new Hobby Stock rules, especially the 3200 lb minimum weight rule! I guess I will have to cut down on the double cheeseburgers at McDonalds to keep the weight down!

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by READ#29 on 10/22/09 at 5:16pm

hey john---------CONGRATS ON THE BUN IN THE OVEN PART#2

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by Kdawg33A on 10/22/09 at 5:37pm

Just a completely curious question. Why are mud plugs in the bead locks mandatory? Is it to keep the mud on the track?

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by NAIL IT WHOYA. on 10/22/09 at 5:39pm

just a guess... Is it because when mud packs in the wheel it eventually will come flying out and possibly land in the stands?

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by Hit n run on 10/22/09 at 7:05pm

We will try and make a trip or two down.We want to try and hit a few north,central and south tracks next season.Maybe you can host one of the Freedom Series races.

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by John Hanson Racing #44 on 10/22/09 at 7:28pm

Thanks Robert! Next season is gonna be alot of fun!
READ#29 wrote on 10/22/09 at 5:16pm:

hey john---------CONGRATS ON THE BUN IN THE OVEN PART#2

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by rickybobby33x on 10/23/09 at 7:22am

Wow john, you lil horney son of a gun............... ;D ;D better sell that green thing/race car to feed the little ones................ :) CONGRATS, let us know if you need anything...............pete 33

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by pitter on 10/23/09 at 7:42am

CK Is 24 lb. air pressure on the right side mandatory for bead lock wheels or for all wheels? Thanks for the rules now instead of much latter. There was a cast iron low rise Holley carb bolt pattern
intake made for a few years-has a 4 barrel plenum and 2 barrel runners. Fits up to a 650 Holley-any chance of using it? Holleys are cheaper and easier than Q-jets to race, I think.

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by Frazier15 on 10/23/09 at 8:02am

The rule is 25lbs. and it applies to the right side of the car only. (Any rim)

The rules specifically state-- "No Holley 4 barrel"

I'm pretty sure this is what Chris is going to tell you.

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by Chris Kearns on 10/23/09 at 9:44am

pitter wrote on 10/23/09 at 7:42am:

25 pounds on right side.

No Holley 4 barrel

4 barrel intake must be OEM. No hi-rise

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by John Hanson Racing #44 on 10/23/09 at 11:45am

Thanks Pete, Looking forward to your daughter racing next year,also I think your younger daughter should sing the national anthem more often!
rickybobby33x wrote on 10/23/09 at 7:22am:

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by brickeyracing on 10/31/09 at 1:39am

it looks like i am going to have to stick around and win the championship

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by childressJr.16 on 11/01/09 at 7:04pm

HEY ck i have a ?? in your rules it says bead lock okay for right side is that right front and right rear you can run it??? I no here at bakers there only allowed to run beadlock on the right rear only im just curious on my???

Ricky Childress

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by Chris Kearns on 11/02/09 at 9:38am

Right side. Front or rear.

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by Frazier15 on 11/02/09 at 10:00am

At this point, it seems like the rule should read "Beadlocks ok"-- Most would only run it on the right side anyway. JMO

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by Frazier15 on 11/02/09 at 1:02pm

The only thing I like about allowing it anywhere is the fact that if I have a tire mounted to a beadlock, and thats that tire is my best looking option for where I need it- it would be nice to not be limited to where that tire can go. For example, I lose a left front in the heat, and I'm low on spares, I could stuff it up there for the main. -- or rf if thats all the rules allow.
Tire pressures shouldn't be as big of a deal @ 3200 lbs.

JMO

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by Patch on 11/02/09 at 2:59pm

The way I read it guys is Beadlock or not you still have to run 25psi. on the right side. So presure shouldn't be a factor in weather someone runs beadlocks or not.

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by TIM_BEWLEY on 11/09/09 at 8:38pm

BODIES:
1. Must be mfg. stock for year model used. Fenders, doors and rear quarter panels may be interchanged with similar models as long as end result is Stock appearing. Any fabricated body part must be min.22-gauge steel or ALUMINUM

this will be interesting to see what this produces. people complain about how the SS look. hope it doesn't happen to the hobby class. why the alum.? can't be because it's colored already. colored alum. is like 40ga not 22.

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by lmfan01 on 11/09/09 at 10:09pm

L O L Good point Tim !

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by Frazier15 on 11/10/09 at 9:03am

TIM_BEWLEY wrote on 11/09/09 at 8:38pm:

Tim-- He has a "Stock appearing" clause at the top. He wants stock steel roofs with stock appearing bodies. We have been running fabricated bodies for a few years now- so nothing has changed looks-wise. Same look, different material. I believe he is trying to help us in the fact that he has dropped the minimum weight to 3200# and placed a max weight of 3600#.

I think his rule package is spot on for this class. It's where the class was already anyway. I have heard a rumor that an American stock class may be in the mix for 2011 or so- so that should help with the order of things.

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by OLD SCHOOL#6 on 11/10/09 at 9:14am

I kinda agree with Tim on this deal. The rule for the SS class reads ---BODIES GUIDELINES:
1. Bodies should be semi stock appearing.

As you all have seen, there is nothing even close to "semi stock appearing" about the SS. Not saying I dislike them, just saying they are a long way from "semi stock appearing", some people even get them mixed up with the LM's.....................

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by Frazier15 on 11/10/09 at 10:24am

Good point.

So how do you word the rule any different to prevent people from being too creative?

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by READ#29 on 11/10/09 at 5:38pm

what would a coil guy do in response from letting cameros run adjustable lowering blocks?

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by Chris Kearns on 11/10/09 at 6:04pm

Tim, you are right, the thickness of the steel shouldnt matter if we are allowing Aluminum. Doesnt make sense. I will change it.

I dont want semi stock appearing Hobby Stocks. I want STOCK APPEARING !!!

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by OLD SCHOOL#6 on 11/10/09 at 7:09pm

READ#29 wrote on 11/10/09 at 5:38pm:

what would a coil guy do in response from letting cameros run adjustable lowering blocks?

HUH !!! Could you clarify this a little bit ?????

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by Sparky56 on 11/10/09 at 7:17pm

READ#29 wrote on 11/10/09 at 5:38pm:

what would a coil guy do in response from letting cameros run adjustable lowering blocks?

It depends on how far you want the L/F off the ground ;D ;D
You got questions, we got answers................

Who's these SMP guys that inspect crash repairs on SMS cars :-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by Chris Kearns on 11/10/09 at 7:32pm

READ#29 wrote on 11/10/09 at 5:38pm:

what would a coil guy do in response from letting cameros run adjustable lowering blocks?

ask Hogracer

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by fromthegrandstands on 11/11/09 at 12:16am

I dont want semi stock appearing Hobby Stocks. I want STOCK APPEARING !!!

YAY!!! That is how (MANY) of us in the stands Prefer them!!!

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by TIM_BEWLEY on 11/11/09 at 3:43pm

READ#29 wrote on 11/10/09 at 5:38pm:

what would a coil guy do in response from letting cameros run adjustable lowering blocks?

Fixed spring buckets allowed on rear of coil cars only.

this is from bako's rules. if leaf cars can run blocks then coil cars should get something also. jmo

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by READ#29 on 11/11/09 at 5:23pm

TIM_BEWLEY wrote on 11/11/09 at 3:43pm:

READ#29 wrote on 11/10/09 at 5:38pm:

what would a coil guy do in response from letting cameros run adjustable lowering blocks?

Fixed spring buckets allowed on rear of coil cars only.

this is from bako's rules. if leaf cars can run blocks then coil cars should get something also. jmo

thats what i am thinking.
i also heard that if you have the left front dangling in the air it hurts you?

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by 32MORGAN on 11/11/09 at 7:45pm

that only applies to you robert, it means your upper ball joints broke. lmao

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by hogracer3d on 11/11/09 at 9:43pm

If rear steer is what your looking for, use offset bushings.

I think thats OK

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by Frazier15 on 11/12/09 at 7:49am

READ#29 wrote on 11/11/09 at 5:23pm:

TIM_BEWLEY wrote on 11/11/09 at 3:43pm:

READ#29 wrote on 11/10/09 at 5:38pm:

what would a coil guy do in response from letting cameros run adjustable lowering blocks?

Fixed spring buckets allowed on rear of coil cars only.

this is from bako's rules. if leaf cars can run blocks then coil cars should get something also. jmo

thats what i am thinking.
i also heard that if you have the left front dangling in the air it hurts you?

If you have something dangling.... you should wear tighter underwear--LOL

I don't see on SMS rules where it allows "fixed spring buckets allowed on rear of coil cars only"-- did I miss it?

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by READ#29 on 11/12/09 at 5:14pm

Frazier15 wrote on 11/12/09 at 7:49am:

READ#29 wrote on 11/11/09 at 5:23pm:

TIM_BEWLEY wrote on 11/11/09 at 3:43pm:

READ#29 wrote on 11/10/09 at 5:38pm:

what would a coil guy do in response from letting cameros run adjustable lowering blocks?

Fixed spring buckets allowed on rear of coil cars only.

this is from bako's rules. if leaf cars can run blocks then coil cars should get something also. jmo

thats what i am thinking.
i also heard that if you have the left front dangling in the air it hurts you?

If you have something dangling.... you should wear tighter underwear--LOL

I don't see on SMS rules where it allows "fixed spring buckets allowed on rear of coil cars only"-- did I miss it?

i prefer boxers than breifs.keeps em cooler. ;)

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by READ#29 on 11/12/09 at 5:14pm

off set bushings for the rear?

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by hobby26b on 11/13/09 at 11:55am

Offset traling arm bushings look in a speedway catalog under rear suspension.

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by hogracer3d on 11/13/09 at 2:24pm

You can also use them for more (or less) arm angle and pinion angle

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by READ#29 on 11/13/09 at 5:14pm

wouldnt you get the same effect with the rear upper trailing arms withan off set hole?

Title: Re: SANTA MARIA SPEEDWAY 2010 HOBBY STOCK RULES
Post by hogracer3d on 11/13/09 at 9:01pm

yea if its within the rules, the offset bushing is not readily noticable